Spoon Calipers Squealing , making Noise , Sounds
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Searched through the archives for ages trying to find something on Spoon Calipers and how to stop them from squeling. No threads came up hence the long topic title, hopefully this thread may help someone else down the road.
Anyways, my spoon calipers have started causing annoying high pitched squeals, now I know the pads have plenty of meat left on them because you can see them pretty clearly without taking the wheel off. ( i would say the material looks like it has 5 - 7 mm of meat left, before the backing plate)
Does anyone else have this issue with there spoon calipers and brake squeal.
I am running the Spoon Set-up with spoon rotors, and some endless pads.
Can anyone reccomend a way to fix this, also been having some issues with the brakes grinding after heavy duty braking, is this a normal feeling ? The brakes don't feel weaker just seem to grind, pads look fine.
So any tips on what to do ?
Also any tips on how often Rotors should be replaced, or any common things to look for on the rotors for abnormal wear ??
Anyways, my spoon calipers have started causing annoying high pitched squeals, now I know the pads have plenty of meat left on them because you can see them pretty clearly without taking the wheel off. ( i would say the material looks like it has 5 - 7 mm of meat left, before the backing plate)
Does anyone else have this issue with there spoon calipers and brake squeal.
I am running the Spoon Set-up with spoon rotors, and some endless pads.
Can anyone reccomend a way to fix this, also been having some issues with the brakes grinding after heavy duty braking, is this a normal feeling ? The brakes don't feel weaker just seem to grind, pads look fine.
So any tips on what to do ?
Also any tips on how often Rotors should be replaced, or any common things to look for on the rotors for abnormal wear ??
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anywho since we're on the subject of spoon brakes does anyone have any recommendation on good brake pads for spoon calipers?
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Depends on what you are using the car for. For the street, I equip my Spoon calipers with OEM pads because they do the job just fine for my daily commute.
Kaveh: Just pull off the wheel and remove the pads. There might be a small rock or some other debris that made its way between the caliper/rotor.
It's best to do a thorough visual inspection.
There's a service limit for the rotors, which is usually measured with some calipers, but if you're looking for visual clues, cracking, high/low spots, heat spots would indicate a need to replace too....or at least resurface depending on severity.
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Depends on what you are using the car for. For the street, I equip my Spoon calipers with OEM pads because they do the job just fine for my daily commute.
Kaveh: Just pull off the wheel and remove the pads. There might be a small rock or some other debris that made its way between the caliper/rotor.
It's best to do a thorough visual inspection.
There's a service limit for the rotors, which is usually measured with some calipers, but if you're looking for visual clues, cracking, high/low spots, heat spots would indicate a need to replace too....or at least resurface depending on severity.
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Angel, a few more questions for you.
1. Do lines in the rotor signal a need for replacement, you can feel them with a finger nail as you runa finger accross.
2. Can spoon rotors be resurfaced ? I have never heard of this before.
Also I came accross a post about the rattle.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234711
Pics are down but it may be of some help.
Ill probably pull the wheels off this weekend and remove the pads and put them back in again, hopefully that will fix the squeak.
It's driving me nuts.
1. Do lines in the rotor signal a need for replacement, you can feel them with a finger nail as you runa finger accross.
2. Can spoon rotors be resurfaced ? I have never heard of this before.
Also I came accross a post about the rattle.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234711
Pics are down but it may be of some help.
Ill probably pull the wheels off this weekend and remove the pads and put them back in again, hopefully that will fix the squeak.
It's driving me nuts.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't know you could use oem pads on spoon calipers. Damn that would be much easier then looking for spoon pads which has to be special order and they are more costly</TD></TR></TABLE>
Spoon calipers use the same pad design as OEM ITR. So any pad made for the ITR can be used on Spoon calipers.
Spoon calipers use the same pad design as OEM ITR. So any pad made for the ITR can be used on Spoon calipers.
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Spoon calipers use the same pad design as OEM ITR. So any pad made for the ITR can be used on Spoon calipers.
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OP, Check the inner pad.
Spoon calipers use the same pad design as OEM ITR. So any pad made for the ITR can be used on Spoon calipers.
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OP, Check the inner pad.
the right way to fix this in stock applications is to remove the brake pads and san down the hard edge of the pads that meet the rotor. the roughness of the edge of the pad is whats making the noise against the rotor so you need to sand it off smooth. also, a lot of pads don't come with an antiseize to apply to the back of the pads. this should definitely be used to prevent rattles in the pads.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kavehman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Angel, a few more questions for you.
1. Do lines in the rotor signal a need for replacement, you can feel them with a finger nail as you runa finger accross.
2. Can spoon rotors be resurfaced ? I have never heard of this before.
Also I came accross a post about the rattle.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234711
Pics are down but it may be of some help.
Ill probably pull the wheels off this weekend and remove the pads and put them back in again, hopefully that will fix the squeak.
It's driving me nuts. </TD></TR></TABLE>
1) Feeling grooves only tells part of the picture. Generally speaking even with mild compounds such as stock, you will feel these surface irregularities.
2) Spoon rotors have been known to be resurfaced, but you need to find a shop willing to put it on their brake lathe. Most will deny you because the grooves might catch the blade and chip/break their tool.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BMaDOHC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, a lot of pads don't come with an antiseize to apply to the back of the pads. this should definitely be used to prevent rattles in the pads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The bending of the clips will prevent the rattles. The anti-seize would be a pretty big mess on Spoon calipers and I'd be wary of getting it into the pistons... just my $2HKD
...from a guy who never used anti-seize on any brake pad backing ever
1. Do lines in the rotor signal a need for replacement, you can feel them with a finger nail as you runa finger accross.
2. Can spoon rotors be resurfaced ? I have never heard of this before.
Also I came accross a post about the rattle.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234711
Pics are down but it may be of some help.
Ill probably pull the wheels off this weekend and remove the pads and put them back in again, hopefully that will fix the squeak.
It's driving me nuts. </TD></TR></TABLE>
1) Feeling grooves only tells part of the picture. Generally speaking even with mild compounds such as stock, you will feel these surface irregularities.
2) Spoon rotors have been known to be resurfaced, but you need to find a shop willing to put it on their brake lathe. Most will deny you because the grooves might catch the blade and chip/break their tool.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BMaDOHC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, a lot of pads don't come with an antiseize to apply to the back of the pads. this should definitely be used to prevent rattles in the pads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The bending of the clips will prevent the rattles. The anti-seize would be a pretty big mess on Spoon calipers and I'd be wary of getting it into the pistons... just my $2HKD
...from a guy who never used anti-seize on any brake pad backing ever
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