Pros & Cons & opinions D15B2 and D16A6
I'm at a cross road, one direction is a D15B2, the other a D16A6. I'm having a machine shop Deck and hone the cylinders of one of the two blocks.
Here's what makes the 2 blocks a delima.
I have a D16Y7 head milled .050 inches (1.27mm) ,the exhaust ports are ported and polished. I'm using a D16Y8 intake manifold port matched to a GSR throttle body. Other additions are Skunk2 cam gear,B&M FPR, V-racing 3" SIR w/ Fujitsu filter, Megan 4-2-1 header, and custom 2.25" mandrel bent exhaust w/ high flow cat. I'm also using a PG-7 ECU (89 Integra).
I've run the set up on a D15B7 block before and it pulled like lil monster and suprised quite a few people.
But now i have a D16A6 block, so do I go with more displacement and potential more torque with slightly less compression?
Or do I keep the rod/stroke ratio of the D15B2 and higher compression.
Eventually a custom cam shaft will come into play but not anytime soon.
Here's what makes the 2 blocks a delima.
I have a D16Y7 head milled .050 inches (1.27mm) ,the exhaust ports are ported and polished. I'm using a D16Y8 intake manifold port matched to a GSR throttle body. Other additions are Skunk2 cam gear,B&M FPR, V-racing 3" SIR w/ Fujitsu filter, Megan 4-2-1 header, and custom 2.25" mandrel bent exhaust w/ high flow cat. I'm also using a PG-7 ECU (89 Integra).
I've run the set up on a D15B7 block before and it pulled like lil monster and suprised quite a few people.
But now i have a D16A6 block, so do I go with more displacement and potential more torque with slightly less compression?
Or do I keep the rod/stroke ratio of the D15B2 and higher compression.
Eventually a custom cam shaft will come into play but not anytime soon.
Originally I was going to run P29s but i'm already between 11:1.1 and 12:1.1 compression with the flat top pistons in the d15B2. Adding the p29 to D16A6 with my head would put me over 13:1.1 compression I do believe . But figuring out what compression i'm at , looking at having, has been and is not an area i'm good at.
dont believe the hype on those calculators, my setup was a A6 block with p-29s and a A6 head milled .080k with a one layer HG. Ran in on pump gas no problem, made the power and time in my sig
I went with the A6 block. Took the crank rods/pistons out , had block decked, cylinders honed and block, rods/pistons and crank cleaned. Took the Y7 head to the shop had the valves checked, make sure none where bent when the head gasket went. I did suffer damage to the stock cam (scratches) and left head gasket indentions which they milled out and took care of any other damge to the head. Now my Crower stage 2/3 (street/Strip) cam will be here Monday. Putting new bearing in and piston rings, maybe ARP rod bolts, i have ARP head studs already. I can't wait to get this finished wanted to do this a long time!
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Should have gone with the A6 head to over that Y7 also.
Here's my old A6 build. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1739065
Sold the car but I see it every day. Engine has over 10k on it now.
Here's my old A6 build. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1739065
Sold the car but I see it every day. Engine has over 10k on it now.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Should have gone with the A6 head to over that Y7 also.
Here's my old A6 build. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1739065
Sold the car but I see it every day. Engine has over 10k on it now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What is better about the A6 head over the Y7. I would think the larger valves would be a benefit.
Here's my old A6 build. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1739065
Sold the car but I see it every day. Engine has over 10k on it now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What is better about the A6 head over the Y7. I would think the larger valves would be a benefit.
The bigger B7 valves dont flow as well as the A6 because they are shrouded by the cylinder walls. Big valves that are too close to the cyl walls wont flow as well as smaller valves that are farther away from cyl walls. Plus the A6 port shape are a little better.
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
But the Y7 does have larger intake and exhaust ports if i remember correctly. The Y7 is the same cast as a Y8 minus the the Vtec. The A6 head had 2 bent valves and had chunks missing from the lobes. The kid who originally owned it ,basically trashed it. I just got it for the bottom end. Also i got the Y7 head from a 99 civic DX for free, with less then 16,000 miles on it. It's still got less then 20,000 on it, i like the idea of it having low miles and less wear and tear.
Nice D16 build , i hope to have some good numbers as well.
Nice D16 build , i hope to have some good numbers as well.
Y7 intake ports suck, just as the Y8's do. They're curved and theres nothing you can do to fix that without welding.
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Hondacivic4g, i read that you used a pg7 ecu on a d15b7.... how did you setup your wiring??....did you use an obd1 distributor?...and everything else obd0?? .... please explain it all.. i got a pg7 and a d15b8 bottom /w a d15b7 top.... i cant seem to get it to fire right...
(isnt pg7 = pm7?) idk..
(isnt pg7 = pm7?) idk..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jtroy917 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondacivic4g, i read that you used a pg7 ecu on a d15b7.... how did you setup your wiring??....did you use an obd1 distributor?...and everything else obd0?? .... please explain it all.. i got a pg7 and a d15b8 bottom /w a d15b7 top.... i cant seem to get it to fire right...
(isnt pg7 = pm7?) idk..</TD></TR></TABLE>
make sure you use the 88-89 pg7...the 86-87 is vacuum advance...
(isnt pg7 = pm7?) idk..</TD></TR></TABLE>
make sure you use the 88-89 pg7...the 86-87 is vacuum advance...
jtroy917 , i'm not sure i'm following what your asking. The original block used for my 1st build was a D15B7, but thats the only part of the D15B7 i used. The head was a D16Y7 (99 civic DX). The distributor was from a D16A6 (crx SI) and the ECU was a PG7 (89 integra). The wiring was normal MPFI set up.
So maybe that clears up your question?
So maybe that clears up your question?
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