Honda Prelude All Model Preludes

Header decision needing advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:17 AM
  #1  
es_squared's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default Header decision needing advice

Ive been out of the header loop for a while, i got my Prospeed a couple years ago, but it cracked on my a couple days ago. Im in contact with prospeed right now to see if they can replace it or reimburse me somehow considering it was alot of effort to get the header to fit in the first place.

anyways ive been hearing about RMF and a couple other header guys? What are the price ranges and are they all relitvley the same in power gains? I was thinking to go with a DC and just modify the collector, seeing as that would be the cheapest and quickest way to fix my problem. Ive heard this mod has huge potential as well, correct?

thanks
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:20 AM
  #2  
M2B4's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,632
Likes: 0
From: Lude Town, TN, USA
Default Re: Header decision needing advice (es_squared)

dc = crap. a cheaper header would be looking into a greddy with collector mod or the explicit racing one. rmf and smsp are similar and are priced at 1000ish whereas which the greddy and explicit ur looking 400-500
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:36 AM
  #3  
es_squared's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default Re: Header decision needing advice (M2B4)

i know dc is crap hehe, but with collector mod DC/greddy i thought they were just as good as prospeed and comparisons?
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:45 PM
  #4  
jdmlude5
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Header decision needing advice (M2B4)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M2B4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dc = crap. a cheaper header would be looking into a greddy with collector mod or the explicit racing one. rmf and smsp are similar and are priced at 1000ish whereas which the greddy and explicit ur looking 400-500</TD></TR></TABLE>

does anyone have a pic of a header with the collector mod.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:27 PM
  #5  
Si Speed's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Default

If you cant afford $600 somethingfor GReddy, get Megan for around $160. Better than DC for a fraction of the cost. If you got a lot of money, get the RMF. I haven't heard one complain on them yet.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:44 PM
  #6  
TheWalrus's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
From: KoP, PA, USA
Default

i have a megan and i like it, its a DC knockoff for much less money. i dont know about gains but ive had it for a year and its been ok...dont use the bracket that bolts it to the block though, it doesnt fit right and itll break the bracket off...
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:57 PM
  #7  
es_squared's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default Re: (TheWalrus)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheWalrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a megan and i like it, its a DC knockoff for much less money. i dont know about gains but ive had it for a year and its been ok...dont use the bracket that bolts it to the block though, it doesnt fit right and itll break the bracket off...</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for that info, yea i just remember about the megan as well.. ill probably just go with the megan if prospeed doesn't help me out.
is it worth doing a collector mod on it?
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 02:45 PM
  #8  
glazethatj's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Indian Head, MD, USA
Default Re: (es_squared)

i have megan to. i hate that bracket. when i first put them on i bolted it to the block and about 2 months later it broke off. it sounded horrible. i welded it back on though and just didnt bolt it on
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:07 PM
  #9  
93sivtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
From: redding, ca, USA
Default Re: (glazethatj)

DC has a header w a 2.5 collector now,so u wouldnt need to do the mod.I dont why everybody likes greddy headers soo much,they are the same design as a dc!!!!!!! Just made out of s.s,w a lil thicker flange.For 4 to 500 dollars the greddy is a JOKE!If u want a cheap option,that is descent.....go with a megan racing header......same as dc,greddy as far as design,and mod the collector,wont cost u more than 250,and thats having an exhaust shop doing the wrk on the collector.....if u have the tools and can weld,it will cost like 150-175.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:32 PM
  #10  
honda_andy's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Default Re: (93sivtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DC has a header w a 2.5 collector now,so u wouldnt need to do the mod.I dont why everybody likes greddy headers soo much,they are the same design as a dc!!!!!!! Just made out of s.s,w a lil thicker flange.For 4 to 500 dollars the greddy is a JOKE!If u want a cheap option,that is descent.....go with a megan racing header......same as dc,greddy as far as design,and mod the collector,wont cost u more than 250,and thats having an exhaust shop doing the wrk on the collector.....if u have the tools and can weld,it will cost like 150-175. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think people like the greddy cuz its been dyno proven to make good power, i think someone dynoed it on ht but i dont know where the thread is.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:48 PM
  #11  
GtechPro's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: San Pedro, Ca, USA
Default Re: (honda_andy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda_andy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think people like the greddy cuz its been dyno proven to make good power, i think someone dynoed it on ht but i dont know where the thread is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just installed a Greddy with a 2.5" collector mod and I love it. I haven't dynoed it yet, but I can definitely feel a decent power gain (and I still have the OEM muffler on there).
Greddy header with a 2.5" collector gets a from me.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 10:44 PM
  #12  
93sivtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
From: redding, ca, USA
Default Re: (GtechPro)

Its not that its a bad product....just an overpriced product for what it is.I bet u would feel the same power if u had the megan w the 2.5 collector mod.Plus I have had bad experiences with Greddy and especially their "customer service".....so for each their own.But I would pick about 3 or 4 different headers for that kind of money or less,before I got the greddy.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:51 AM
  #13  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: (93sivtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its not that its a bad product....just an overpriced product for what it is.I bet u would feel the same power if u had the megan w the 2.5 collector mod.Plus I have had bad experiences with Greddy and especially their "customer service".....so for each their own.But I would pick about 3 or 4 different headers for that kind of money or less,before I got the greddy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good thing you arent in it to make alot of power, you'd say the same thing about every part of an NA build.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:24 AM
  #14  
93sivtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
From: redding, ca, USA
Default Re: (98vtec)

No it would be like this set of cams that make this much power for 400$......or GREDDY cams with the same exact specs,lift duration etc,for 800$.....cause its greddy.I understand an n/a build.Which has little or nothing to do with buying an overpriced header for his mostly stock prelude.If money is no concern buy a real header like RMF,if u want a bargain header there is just no reason to go with greddy.Just my opinion.........and as far as the power goes.....my lude likes nitrous......pushing 235whp w around 200ft lbs of torque.....for the same cost as a greddy header.13.7 w bolt ons and a 55shot. You would be 3 grand into your N/A build for 235whp.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:19 AM
  #15  
A Blue Lude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,682
Likes: 0
Default Re: (93sivtec)

DC and Greddy headers aren't the same thing.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:19 AM
  #16  
1GPlusSH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
From: Biloxi, MS, USA
Default Re: (93sivtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No it would be like this set of cams that make this much power for 400$......or GREDDY cams with the same exact specs,lift duration etc,for 800$.....cause its greddy.I understand an n/a build.Which has little or nothing to do with buying an overpriced header for his mostly stock prelude.If money is no concern buy a real header like RMF,if u want a bargain header there is just no reason to go with greddy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The RMF header for the 5th gen is "only" $700 unless you get it coated. $850 for coated.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:26 AM
  #17  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: (1GPlusSH)

760 uncoated
860 coated

includes flex pipe.

wasnt trying to advertise pricing, dont kill me.

http://www.myspace.com/rmf_headers
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:31 AM
  #18  
1GPlusSH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
From: Biloxi, MS, USA
Default Re: (98vtec)

The only reason I said anything with price is because someone said $1000. I wanted to make sure they could get a quality header for a LOT less.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:36 AM
  #19  
A Blue Lude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,682
Likes: 0
Default Re: (1GPlusSH)

You can't compare an uncoated mild steel header with a stainless one, though, unless you happen to live in a fairly warm desert.

Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:41 AM
  #20  
GtechPro's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: San Pedro, Ca, USA
Default Re: (93sivtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.and as far as the power goes.....my lude likes nitrous......pushing 235whp w around 200ft lbs of torque.....for the same cost as a greddy header.13.7 w bolt ons and a 55shot. You would be 3 grand into your N/A build for 235whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yah, lets compare apples and oranges.

BTW, I don't think Greddy header is overpriced. Sure it's more expensive than Megan, but that's because Megan started off by making generic **** and selling it on e-bay whereas Greddy built their reputation by selling quality parts for years. Plus, I had a lot of Greddy parts before and I never had a single problem or a fitment issue with them. Besides, Greddy quality beats Megan quality hands down. You won't see me complaining about some bracket either. And you should keep in mind that Greddy headers are 50 state legal unlike Megan and that's also one of the reasons why it costs more.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No it would be like this set of cams that make this much power for 400$......or GREDDY cams with the same exact specs,lift duration etc,for 800$.....cause its greddy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So specs and price alone would be enough for you to make up your mind??
That explains everything...
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:44 AM
  #21  
1GPlusSH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
From: Biloxi, MS, USA
Default Re: (GtechPro)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GtechPro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yah, lets compare apples and oranges.

BTW, I don't think Greddy header is overpriced. Sure it's more expensive than Megan, but that's because Megan started off by making generic **** and selling it on e-bay whereas Greddy built their reputation by selling quality parts for years. Plus, I had a lot of Greddy parts before and I never had a single problem or a fitment issue with them. Besides, Greddy quality beats Megan quality hands down. You won't see me complaining about some bracket either. And you should keep in mind that Greddy headers are 50 state legal unlike Megan and that's also one of the reasons why it costs more.

So specs and price alone would be enough for you to make up your mind??
That explains everything... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have to agree. If you buy a part for half the money and unknown quality...how long is it going to be before you have to replace it? It might cost more now, but go with the quality.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 11:14 AM
  #22  
es_squared's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default Re: (1GPlusSH)

still waiting on a reply from the guys at prospeed, if they don't do anything to help me out im gona be mega pissed off
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 11:55 AM
  #23  
GtechPro's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: San Pedro, Ca, USA
Default Re: (si_speed)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si_speed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you cant afford $600 somethingfor GReddy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Greddy headers don't cost that much.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:04 PM
  #24  
GtechPro's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: San Pedro, Ca, USA
Default Re: Header decision needing advice (es_squared)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by es_squared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive been out of the header loop for a while, i got my Prospeed a couple years ago, but it cracked on my a couple days ago. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How bad is the crack? Maybe you can just take it to your local muffler shop and get it welded...
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:25 PM
  #25  
es_squared's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default Re: Header decision needing advice (GtechPro)

its not repairable, and even if it was i would get it repaired because it would probably crack in a different spot. (its already cracked on me another time as well.)
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:21 AM.