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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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BOTTOM END: AEBS sleeved gsr block, 84.5mm bore 89mm stroke, 9:1 CP pistons, eagle rods.

HEAD: stock ITR head, supertech valves/springs/ret., CTR cams, BDL cam gears, Edelbrock victorX manifold, BBK 70mm TB

Turbo setup: LoveFab ramhorn dual drilled t3/t4, Precision PT67 T4 .68 A/R exhaust housing .70 compressor, Tial 44mm wastegate, 3.5" exhaust, 3" full chargepipes, Precision 750 FMIC, Tial BOV.

Fuel system is just an in-tank walbro 255hp for now and stock lines w/ STR fuel rail, 1000cc precision injectors.

tuning will be done w/ hondata. my main concern is the exhaust housing and the RPM's i will be turning with these cams. any help/ info or opinions would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance.




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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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CTR cams are same as usdm ITR cams...no?
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR cams are same as usdm ITR cams...no?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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I believe the 01's if Im not mistaken...
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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on eagles thats a granade.....!
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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idk if that Walbro is going to push enough fuel for your engine at full load....but then again, i'm not sure what kind of power they're rated for...
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danilogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on eagles thats a granade.....!</TD></TR></TABLE>

really now?
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danilogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on eagles thats a granade.....!</TD></TR></TABLE> hmm ok this shows you have no knowledge. go read about keller/fischer making over 900whp on them
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cimburke23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> hmm ok this shows you have no knowledge. go read about keller/fischer making over 900whp on them </TD></TR></TABLE>That guy is a moron. Its possible but I wouldnt go much beyond 600whp with a Walbro 255.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danilogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on eagles thats a granade.....!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Go die on your bandwaggon.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Go die on your bandwaggon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2. eagle rods ARE GREAT! just from personal experience. me and my buddy matt put them in his ls-v-t integra and its been running strong for over a year now. not a hiccup

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR cams are same as usdm ITR cams...no?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I do believe the intake cam on the 2000 ITR's are the same as the CTR intake cam. correct me if im wrong. Then in 01' ITR and CTR cams are EXACTLY the same.

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To the OP, i do not know if the 255lph fuel pump is capable of that power, but i dont have any first hand experience. Ill look around and see what i can dig up, just so you dont blow your motor over $175 part.

good luck man.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b00sted-Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

x2. eagle rods ARE GREAT! just from personal experience. me and my buddy matt put them in his ls-v-t integra and its been running strong for over a year now. not a hiccup

I do believe the intake cam on the 2000 ITR's are the same as the CTR intake cam. correct me if im wrong. Then in 01' ITR and CTR cams are EXACTLY the same.

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To the OP, i do not know if the 255lph fuel pump is capable of that power, but i dont have any first hand experience. Ill look around and see what i can dig up, just so you dont blow your motor over $175 part.

good luck man.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pretty sure your right on the cam. Not exactly sure what years, but i do know that there is a difference between ctr and itr intake cam on curtain year itr cams.
to eagles.
and "just so you don't blow your motor over a $175 part."
Over a $90 part. that would be even worse!
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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I myself am putting my jdm 98+ r head with ctr intake cam on my GE sleeved,Eagle rods/cp piston GSR block with my gt3076r .82 and topmount. She will do just fine in my crx!
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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for refrence, i know revhard used to race on type r camse back in the day, i know for a fact they made over 700whp on them, i would worry about your turbine housing in regards to really high rpm power, aside from that and the fuel pump mentioned seems like you should be able to reach your goal.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Pretty sure your right on the cam. Not exactly sure what years, but i do know that there is a difference between ctr and itr intake cam on curtain year itr cams.
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and the markings on the end. like the divits. i forget what they are called. its how you tell all the b-series cams apart.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Before you start tuning, you might want to put a dip stick in the hole
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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CTR cams and 98+ JDM ITR/00-01 US ITR cams are the same for intake. 97 and later itr cams are 3 degrees less duration than CTR cams.

Again, JDM 98+ ITR and CTR intake cams are the same spec. The JDM 95-97 intake cam has 3 degrees less duration, but all of the "R" cams have the same exhaust cam specs.

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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR cams and 98+ JDM ITR/00-01 US ITR cams are the same for intake. 97 and later itr cams are 3 degrees less duration than CTR cams.

Again, JDM 98+ ITR and CTR intake cams are the same spec. The JDM 95-97 intake cam has 3 degrees less duration, but all of the "R" cams have the same exhaust cam specs.

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basically what i said.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before you start tuning, you might want to put a dip stick in the hole </TD></TR></TABLE>

i sureee hope he does.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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heh dipstick.
funny word, who though of that.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before you start tuning, you might want to put a dip stick in the hole </TD></TR></TABLE> lol, that pic was taken while mocking up the new exhaust. currently swapping clutches, tranny, and putting all the turbo stuff back on for the final time, hoping to have it ready to tune tuesday, i'll let you know the outcome. also, whats the deal w/ a catchcan? does the engine just start blowing THAT much oil out the top when u make enough power or what? im planning to tap the valvecover eventually but it may not get done before the dyno on tuesday. thanks for everyones input.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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bump for 600
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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just becuase someones setup make X amount of power doesnt mean your will or wont make more or less. You'll know if you run out of fuel you seem to have a solid setup.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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pffft... dip sticks are over rated, just put a breather filter on it and use it for crankcase ventilation lol

as far as the 650whp its kinda iffy with the 255... deffinately hard wire it to the battery with a relay, and/or get a boost-a-pump to raise voltage... this however could shorten the life of the pump especially if you ever run low on fuel... its really hit or miss....

good luck with it though.... looks like a pretty effective setup
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cimburke23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fuel system is just an in-tank walbro 255hp for now and stock lines w/ STR fuel rail.

tuning will be done w/ hondata. my main concern is the exhaust housing and the RPM's i will be turning with these cams. any help/ info or opinions would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't be worried about the exhaust housing and the cams. I would be concerned with the fuel setup.

If you have the fuel, that setup can make 650-700whp all day. Who is tuning it?
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