im trying to make my d16z6 200whp without turbo or nos. i have b18 throttle body with port match, high flow intake, header and catback exhaust. what else is there to get? i was thinking on gettin a cam but $350 for 15hp i dont think is worth it.

 

if your worried about 350 bucks for a 200hp SOHC build, then you need to search way way more ...

 

200HP on a D with no turbo???and you dont want to spend 350 for cams to go NA..lmmafo...sell your car and get like an s2000 then...

 

You have some goals that apparently don't match your pocketbook.

Pistons
Rods
Cam
Valve Springs
Valves
Retainers
Intake Manifold
Chipped ECU with dyno/street tune

If you don't think it's worth it, then don't get it. It's apparent you'd rather save money than build your car.

 

its not that i dont want it i just dont have the cash. im trying to find the best and cheapest way to get me there. what would be the kinds of gains i would see with valve springs and a cam shaft. i know no one can tell me exact cause **** varies but if you can tell me what it would came close to that would help

 

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The cheapest way to get there is nitrous. If you're too broke to do it the right way, then don't do it at all. Focus on your exterior, or save your pennies.

 

werent you the guy talking sht to people because they would help after you bumping your thread every 5 mins???why dont you search before you post...you will find the answer to your question with different cams...

 

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Pistons
Rods
Cam
Valve Springs
Valves
Retainers
Intake Manifold
Chipped ECU with dyno/street tune

If you don't think it's worth it, then don't get it. It's apparent you'd rather save money than build your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so basicly this is the only way. i can do some of that stuff so i guess just start saving then. what should i start with

 

I dont think a D can make 200whp going NA...i could be wrong but i have never heard of one...boost or squeeze thats it...here is a good plan for you to follow

save up $5000 and put it toward internals a turbo kit and tunning and it will get you close

 

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cutting your wrist.... j/k

just buy parts after parts...once you have everything, throw everything in at once...if not, start with the block...that way you only bring i apart once...some of the head work can be done with the head on the block...

 

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so basicly this is the only way. i can do some of that stuff so i guess just start saving then. what should i start with</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pistons --&gt; Raise Compression (power)
Rods --&gt; Strengthen Powertrain
Cam --&gt; Increase lift/duration (more air+fuel)
Valve Springs \
Valves &gt; Allow higher revving
Retainers /
Intake Manifold --&gt; More air
Chipped ECU with dyno/street tune -- Make the most of your modifications

You'll also need some bigger injectors and a bigger fuel pump (depending on the severity of your tune and how chunky your cams are).

N/A is like a jigsaw puzzle. You have all these pieces, and you don't really have what you want until all the pieces are put together.

 

so were should i start?

 

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save up $5000 and put it toward internals a turbo kit and tunning and it will get you close</TD></TR></TABLE>

close???i figure that would take him over 200

 

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It's possible, just not very friendly for a daily driver.

 

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close???i figure that would take him over 200</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am just being honest...will it get him over 200 maybe I dont know for sure, but it should get him in that ball park. he may buy everything off ebay causing him to fall short due to **** poor parts.

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It's possible, just not very friendly for a daily driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cant possibly be be fun for a DD

 

you are not going to get anywhere near 200whp with a NA D without serious money and time. just boost the damn thing if you want 200whp.

 

this is my daily driver. no ebay for me i learned my first time not to fuckk with that ****. i heard zex makes the most agressive camshaft is this right. idont want to boost cause my car has 228,000 miles on it and i dont want to blow the motor.

 

you can't just get a aggressive came, with no tune with stock compression.

or you can, and have your car run like **** .....

 

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you're going to have to do a full rebuild anyway

 

if i get a cam i plan on geting it tuned cause i want more hp not a $350 part that will make my car run like ****. if i boost what psi would give me hp but not expletive my motor up or make it run half the motors life down

 

a stock d16z6 makes what, 105whp on a good day? you want to add another 95-100whp on top of that. and retain daily driveability? boost is your easiest option. seriously.

 

ok well how mutch psi should i boost and not run my motor into the ground

 

i would say if you swap in a B18c5 would be your best bet.

A) your stock motor is old and tired
B) Its not far from 200 hp
C) It would be fun for a DD, Not work

 

if your going to run boost, its not only psi, its tune ...

 

at the top of the tread i said i dont have a lot of money. a swap were im at is 2500 and i can get a full turbo set up (used) for $500 with out installation. doood just sold me on the turbo i'll i need to know is how mutch psi i should run with out running my motor into the ground, what do you mean tune like hondata