B20? I didnt know there was such thing.. Also whats the difference...
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B20? I didnt know there was such thing.. Also whats the difference...
B20?: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
What's the difference between a USDM B18B and a JDM B18B? I'm looking to buy a Used B18B to take apart and gain some experience working on without jeopardizing my current car (1999 LS). Eventually i will build up this new engine and turbo it.
I want to know if it will make a difference if I get a J-spec motor or a USDM one? I'm going to get new, pistons/rods/sleeves eventually.
Also, where's the best place to find a used B18b? Local junkyard? I thought Passwordjdm sold engines, but I couldn't find them.
What's the difference between a USDM B18B and a JDM B18B? I'm looking to buy a Used B18B to take apart and gain some experience working on without jeopardizing my current car (1999 LS). Eventually i will build up this new engine and turbo it.
I want to know if it will make a difference if I get a J-spec motor or a USDM one? I'm going to get new, pistons/rods/sleeves eventually.
Also, where's the best place to find a used B18b? Local junkyard? I thought Passwordjdm sold engines, but I couldn't find them.
Re: B20? I didnt know there was such thing.. Also whats the difference... (dezerte)
it does not matter if you get usdm, jdm, edm, whatever when you start tearing into the internals
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B20B, B20Z: The B20 engine is the newcomer in the game and is highly acclaimed by its supporters. It has several key characteristics that give this engine real potential no matter what route you decide to persue. The B20B came on the 1996-1998 CRV and the B20Z came on 1999-2000 CRV. The B20B made 126 hp but the real jewel was the 133lbs of torque that was easily achieved almost anywhere in the RPM band. It is a small displacement engine that has flat torque line!!! Additionally it was a comparatively low compression engine which means that turbocharging to decent levels is possible without the need to spend hundreds on rods or pistons. The B20Z was more or less the same as the B20B but they changed several head characteristics and the compression was bumped up to increase the horsepower to 146.
There are really two choices for dealing the B20 as far as power goes. You could leave it as is and simply swap the head for B16 model. The cylinder head on the B20B model (particularly the tall intake manifold) doesn't clear the hoodline of the civic, which is ok since the B16 head swap will add Vtec abilities and increased power. OR you could go about what is called a CR-VTEC conversion. This is what I consider to be the ultimate engine build-up for civics’. You can check out http://www.crvtec.com for details. The first thing you need to know about B-series engine (B18, B16, B20) is that they all have, for the most part, interchangeable engine parts. So the CRVTEC buildup basically consists of taking the best parts of all the engines and making an unprecedented Frankenstein of motor that has a perfect Rod to Stroke ratio of near 1.75 which allows for great naturally aspirated performance (A HUGE redline) or the ability to turbocharge the engine to very large proportions without worrying about engine stability. It is unfortunately rather expensive but this setup will take you anywhere you want to go. The simple B20/B16 swap costs as follows: $1000-$1500 for the B20 short block, +/- $600 for the B16 head, +/- $300 for the B16 ECU + tranny and other small parts. The price for the CR/VTEC could be calculated on the aforementioned site.
Unless you’re simply happy with the stock B20 swap, the only reasons it should be considered are CRVTEC conversions or Forced Induction. The aftermarket support isn’t as plentiful for the B20 as it is for the other engine mentioned so any engine upgrades usually come from other B series or upgraded aftermarket parts for other B series. Which is more less slowly building a CRVTEC engine. But I still highly recommend this engine for the best bang for the buck power adder.
B20B, B20Z: The B20 engine is the newcomer in the game and is highly acclaimed by its supporters. It has several key characteristics that give this engine real potential no matter what route you decide to persue. The B20B came on the 1996-1998 CRV and the B20Z came on 1999-2000 CRV. The B20B made 126 hp but the real jewel was the 133lbs of torque that was easily achieved almost anywhere in the RPM band. It is a small displacement engine that has flat torque line!!! Additionally it was a comparatively low compression engine which means that turbocharging to decent levels is possible without the need to spend hundreds on rods or pistons. The B20Z was more or less the same as the B20B but they changed several head characteristics and the compression was bumped up to increase the horsepower to 146.
There are really two choices for dealing the B20 as far as power goes. You could leave it as is and simply swap the head for B16 model. The cylinder head on the B20B model (particularly the tall intake manifold) doesn't clear the hoodline of the civic, which is ok since the B16 head swap will add Vtec abilities and increased power. OR you could go about what is called a CR-VTEC conversion. This is what I consider to be the ultimate engine build-up for civics’. You can check out http://www.crvtec.com for details. The first thing you need to know about B-series engine (B18, B16, B20) is that they all have, for the most part, interchangeable engine parts. So the CRVTEC buildup basically consists of taking the best parts of all the engines and making an unprecedented Frankenstein of motor that has a perfect Rod to Stroke ratio of near 1.75 which allows for great naturally aspirated performance (A HUGE redline) or the ability to turbocharge the engine to very large proportions without worrying about engine stability. It is unfortunately rather expensive but this setup will take you anywhere you want to go. The simple B20/B16 swap costs as follows: $1000-$1500 for the B20 short block, +/- $600 for the B16 head, +/- $300 for the B16 ECU + tranny and other small parts. The price for the CR/VTEC could be calculated on the aforementioned site.
Unless you’re simply happy with the stock B20 swap, the only reasons it should be considered are CRVTEC conversions or Forced Induction. The aftermarket support isn’t as plentiful for the B20 as it is for the other engine mentioned so any engine upgrades usually come from other B series or upgraded aftermarket parts for other B series. Which is more less slowly building a CRVTEC engine. But I still highly recommend this engine for the best bang for the buck power adder.
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Re: (RuskeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RuskeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B20 came in the CRV</TD></TR></TABLE>
OHHH yes, I've heard this before actually, I just forgot. Thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it does not matter if you get usdm, jdm, edm, whatever when you start tearing into the internals</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks
OHHH yes, I've heard this before actually, I just forgot. Thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it does not matter if you get usdm, jdm, edm, whatever when you start tearing into the internals</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks
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Re: (RuskeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RuskeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> You can get a B18B for fairly cheap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Any specific place? I *really* want to avoid ebay at all costs after a recent mishap..
Any specific place? I *really* want to avoid ebay at all costs after a recent mishap..
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Re: (RuskeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RuskeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Taken from: http://www.hondahookup.com/inf...q.php
B20B, B20Z: The B20 engine is the newcomer in the game and is highly acclaimed by its supporters. It has several key characteristics that give this engine real potential no matter what route you decide to persue. The B20B came on the 1996-1998 CRV and the B20Z came on 1999-2000 CRV. The B20B made 126 hp but the real jewel was the 133lbs of torque that was easily achieved almost anywhere in the RPM band. It is a small displacement engine that has flat torque line!!! Additionally it was a comparatively low compression engine which means that turbocharging to decent levels is possible without the need to spend hundreds on rods or pistons. The B20Z was more or less the same as the B20B but they changed several head characteristics and the compression was bumped up to increase the horsepower to 146.
There are really two choices for dealing the B20 as far as power goes. You could leave it as is and simply swap the head for B16 model. The cylinder head on the B20B model (particularly the tall intake manifold) doesn't clear the hoodline of the civic, which is ok since the B16 head swap will add Vtec abilities and increased power. OR you could go about what is called a CR-VTEC conversion. This is what I consider to be the ultimate engine build-up for civics’. You can check out http://www.crvtec.com for details. The first thing you need to know about B-series engine (B18, B16, B20) is that they all have, for the most part, interchangeable engine parts. So the CRVTEC buildup basically consists of taking the best parts of all the engines and making an unprecedented Frankenstein of motor that has a perfect Rod to Stroke ratio of near 1.75 which allows for great naturally aspirated performance (A HUGE redline) or the ability to turbocharge the engine to very large proportions without worrying about engine stability. It is unfortunately rather expensive but this setup will take you anywhere you want to go. The simple B20/B16 swap costs as follows: $1000-$1500 for the B20 short block, +/- $600 for the B16 head, +/- $300 for the B16 ECU + tranny and other small parts. The price for the CR/VTEC could be calculated on the aforementioned site.
Unless you’re simply happy with the stock B20 swap, the only reasons it should be considered are CRVTEC conversions or Forced Induction. The aftermarket support isn’t as plentiful for the B20 as it is for the other engine mentioned so any engine upgrades usually come from other B series or upgraded aftermarket parts for other B series. Which is more less slowly building a CRVTEC engine. But I still highly recommend this engine for the best bang for the buck power adder. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol....sorry i thought it was so funny. You gave some really good info, and everything, but what made me laugh was that the next post was:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dezerte »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
OHHH yes, I've heard this before actually, I just forgot. Thanks
Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
oh man...made me laugh so much.
B20B, B20Z: The B20 engine is the newcomer in the game and is highly acclaimed by its supporters. It has several key characteristics that give this engine real potential no matter what route you decide to persue. The B20B came on the 1996-1998 CRV and the B20Z came on 1999-2000 CRV. The B20B made 126 hp but the real jewel was the 133lbs of torque that was easily achieved almost anywhere in the RPM band. It is a small displacement engine that has flat torque line!!! Additionally it was a comparatively low compression engine which means that turbocharging to decent levels is possible without the need to spend hundreds on rods or pistons. The B20Z was more or less the same as the B20B but they changed several head characteristics and the compression was bumped up to increase the horsepower to 146.
There are really two choices for dealing the B20 as far as power goes. You could leave it as is and simply swap the head for B16 model. The cylinder head on the B20B model (particularly the tall intake manifold) doesn't clear the hoodline of the civic, which is ok since the B16 head swap will add Vtec abilities and increased power. OR you could go about what is called a CR-VTEC conversion. This is what I consider to be the ultimate engine build-up for civics’. You can check out http://www.crvtec.com for details. The first thing you need to know about B-series engine (B18, B16, B20) is that they all have, for the most part, interchangeable engine parts. So the CRVTEC buildup basically consists of taking the best parts of all the engines and making an unprecedented Frankenstein of motor that has a perfect Rod to Stroke ratio of near 1.75 which allows for great naturally aspirated performance (A HUGE redline) or the ability to turbocharge the engine to very large proportions without worrying about engine stability. It is unfortunately rather expensive but this setup will take you anywhere you want to go. The simple B20/B16 swap costs as follows: $1000-$1500 for the B20 short block, +/- $600 for the B16 head, +/- $300 for the B16 ECU + tranny and other small parts. The price for the CR/VTEC could be calculated on the aforementioned site.
Unless you’re simply happy with the stock B20 swap, the only reasons it should be considered are CRVTEC conversions or Forced Induction. The aftermarket support isn’t as plentiful for the B20 as it is for the other engine mentioned so any engine upgrades usually come from other B series or upgraded aftermarket parts for other B series. Which is more less slowly building a CRVTEC engine. But I still highly recommend this engine for the best bang for the buck power adder. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol....sorry i thought it was so funny. You gave some really good info, and everything, but what made me laugh was that the next post was:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dezerte »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
OHHH yes, I've heard this before actually, I just forgot. Thanks
Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
oh man...made me laugh so much.
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Re: (B serious)
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lol....sorry i thought it was so funny. You gave some really good info, and everything, but what made me laugh was that the next post was:
oh man...made me laugh so much. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol....sorry i thought it was so funny. You gave some really good info, and everything, but what made me laugh was that the next post was:
oh man...made me laugh so much. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra0057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea the b20 is from the crv its usually a b20vtec motor which is a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder.</TD></TR></TABLE>
B20b's/z's are NON-vtec from the factory.
B20b's/z's are NON-vtec from the factory.
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Re: (dezerte)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dezerte »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Any specific place? I *really* want to avoid ebay at all costs after a recent mishap..</TD></TR></TABLE>
i got a B20Z with a p8R head for 500, cant beat 146/133 stock for $500
Any specific place? I *really* want to avoid ebay at all costs after a recent mishap..</TD></TR></TABLE>
i got a B20Z with a p8R head for 500, cant beat 146/133 stock for $500
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i got a B20Z with a p8R head for 500, cant beat 146/133 stock for $500</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yesterday I bought a stock b20Z long block(tranny,shift linkage,ecu,etc) w/ distributer for $300.
Too sweet of a deal to pass up. Legit motor as well.
i got a B20Z with a p8R head for 500, cant beat 146/133 stock for $500</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yesterday I bought a stock b20Z long block(tranny,shift linkage,ecu,etc) w/ distributer for $300.
Too sweet of a deal to pass up. Legit motor as well.
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Re: (Integra0057)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra0057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea the b20 is from the crv its usually a b20vtec motor which is a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No dumb@ss, the B20s in CRVs are non-VTEC.
No dumb@ss, the B20s in CRVs are non-VTEC.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i got a B20Z with a p8R head for 500, cant beat 146/133 stock for $500</TD></TR></TABLE>
where!?? I've seen p8r heads go for 300-500$ alone, I've been looking all over for a damn higher compression B20 (99-up JDM b20b or usdm b20z) motor
i got a B20Z with a p8R head for 500, cant beat 146/133 stock for $500</TD></TR></TABLE>
where!?? I've seen p8r heads go for 300-500$ alone, I've been looking all over for a damn higher compression B20 (99-up JDM b20b or usdm b20z) motor
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where!?? I've seen p8r heads go for 300-500$ alone, I've been looking all over for a damn higher compression B20 (99-up JDM b20b or usdm b20z) motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.passwordjdm.com
where!?? I've seen p8r heads go for 300-500$ alone, I've been looking all over for a damn higher compression B20 (99-up JDM b20b or usdm b20z) motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.passwordjdm.com
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 07ssmfit916 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not that anyone cares.. but i think the b20 also came in the 2.0Si preludes.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
those were the much older and much crappier b20a's
those were the much older and much crappier b20a's
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Re: (Integra0057)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 07ssmfit916 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not that anyone cares.. but i think the b20 also came in the 2.0Si preludes.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, like was said, the B20s and B21s from older (3rd gen) Preludes were a totally different engine from all the other B-series in Civics and tegs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra0057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">expletive you ******</TD></TR></TABLE>
You little kids just get angrier and more ignorant each year...jeez
Yeah, like was said, the B20s and B21s from older (3rd gen) Preludes were a totally different engine from all the other B-series in Civics and tegs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra0057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">expletive you ******</TD></TR></TABLE>
You little kids just get angrier and more ignorant each year...jeez