RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:17 PM
  #1  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!!

ok. i just finished my RHD conversion on my 1990 civic hatch Si. i did a firewall swap. the rack and pinion bolted on just fine and so did the streaing coloum. my problem is, my rear tranny bracket doesnt align to the rear mount. its off buy a whole lot. i got the left and right motor mount bolted on but the back dont align up. does anyone know what im doing wrong? help meee! here's some pics of the rear mount.

i just want to know. since my EF clip had a B series motor in it, do i have to change that back rear mount? what do i have to change to make my D series motor fit?


here's a pic of the rear mount. as you can see, its off buy a whole lot.


this is the bracket that im using. im not sure if i have to use some other kind of bracket...



Modified by JSPEC EF at 3:30 PM 3/4/2007
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:19 PM
  #2  
dr_latino999's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,732
Likes: 3
From: Ft. Hood
Default Re: RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!! (JSPEC EF)

B-Series motor in the chassis?
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:23 PM
  #3  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!! (dr_latino999)

new its d series


Modified by JSPEC EF at 8:34 PM 3/3/2007
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:33 PM
  #4  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!! (JSPEC EF)

does anyone know if there is a difference between a b-series rear mount and a d-series? cause im not too sure..
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:39 PM
  #5  
dr_latino999's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,732
Likes: 3
From: Ft. Hood
Default Re: RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!! (JSPEC EF)

My thinking, without ever doing a RHD swap

I think the problem is, if you went RHD with just the firewall / interior / steering rack swap you have changed the mounting point from the one of SOHC motor to a DOHC motor, that's why all the other mounts still work except that one.

If you went RHD with a whole front clip swap -- firewall --> headlights -- than I have no clue what's going on with a SOHC.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:42 PM
  #6  
Crx Jimmy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,915
Likes: 1
From: jimmysville VT,, NY, USA
Default Re: RHD REAR MOTOR MOUNT PROBLEM!!!!! HELP!! (dr_latino999)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My thinking, without ever doing a RHD swap

I think the problem is, if you went RHD with just the firewall / interior / steering rack swap you have changed the mounting point from the one of SOHC motor to a DOHC motor, that's why all the other mounts still work except that one.

If you went RHD with a whole front clip swap -- firewall --&gt; headlights -- than I have no clue what's going on with a SOHC.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
the same thoughts here. Is the new rear crossmember from a dohc car but the rest of the front sohc. this is probably the difference
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:12 PM
  #7  
G0crxG0's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,683
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, OH
Default

So let me get this straight, you have USDM mounting brackets in the front, and a JDM rear crossmember is JDM? And you want to put a D series in?
IDK about JDM rear x members, but on the USDM ones I've encountered they had 2 mounting points one for the B mount and one for the D.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:35 PM
  #8  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: (G0crxG0)

i did a EG conversion and all the mounts bolted up just fine. i compared and measured the LHD and the RHD crossmembers and they seem to be the same. im not sure if its the mounts on the motor or what. IDK
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:44 PM
  #9  
dr_latino999's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,732
Likes: 3
From: Ft. Hood
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

But as you know, the EG chassis shares the same mounts between the B-Series and the D-Series, that is not the case in the EF chassis.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:45 PM
  #10  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: (dr_latino999)

so do i have to change the mount on the crossmember or do i change the bracket?
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:52 PM
  #11  
G0crxG0's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,683
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, OH
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPEC EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did a EG conversion and all the mounts bolted up just fine. i compared and measured the LHD and the RHD crossmembers and they seem to be the same. im not sure if its the mounts on the motor or what. IDK </TD></TR></TABLE>
well did you have the engine in there before or is this the first time putting it in? if its been in before just use the old X member if their the same.
I dont understand though what you mean by you did an eg conversion?
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:58 PM
  #12  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: (G0crxG0)

i bought a clip with no motor jsut so i can do the RHD conversion. i bought the motor and trans soon after. i ment that the LHD and the RHD crossmembers are the same as in the position of the rear mount. it just seems as if my motors too much to the left for some reason. is their something im missing or doing wrong?
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:17 PM
  #13  
G0crxG0's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,683
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, OH
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPEC EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bought a clip with no motor jsut so i can do the RHD conversion. i bought the motor and trans soon after. i ment that the LHD and the RHD crossmembers are the same as in the position of the rear mount. it just seems as if my motors too much to the left for some reason. is their something im missing or doing wrong?</TD></TR></TABLE>
your still not making sense.
an EG is another chassis model.
If you just did a RHD conversion on a ED/EF (88-91 Civic) then you did nothing involving a EG.
what engine and tranny are you using?
Did you look and see if there are other holes to mount the rear mount on the x member?
like I said, mine had 2. one for D series, one for B. If I recall, the D series was on the left.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:21 PM
  #14  
408wdy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,176
Likes: 0
From: san jo
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

does everything else go together smoothly.. how do the axles fit into the hubs.. is the passenger side a bitch to put in?.. maybe you have the wrong mounts making it shift toward the passenger side.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:11 PM
  #15  
Jonknee's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,643
Likes: 0
From: Bakersfield
Default Re: (408wdy)

yah my sedan had two, one was used with the automatic transmission, the other was used with the manual transmission.
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:06 PM
  #16  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: (G0crxG0)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G0crxG0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
your still not making sense.
an EG is another chassis model.
If you just did a RHD conversion on a ED/EF (88-91 Civic) then you did nothing involving a EG.
what engine and tranny are you using?
Did you look and see if there are other holes to mount the rear mount on the x member?
like I said, mine had 2. one for D series, one for B. If I recall, the D series was on the left.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know that EGs and EF chassis are different. im jsut saying that i did a EG RHD conversion and everything bolted up just fine. ill check for the other holes. maybe there are other ones. thanks for the help tho. ill keep u guys posted
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:33 PM
  #17  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: (408wdy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 408wdy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does everything else go together smoothly.. how do the axles fit into the hubs.. is the passenger side a bitch to put in?.. maybe you have the wrong mounts making it shift toward the passenger side.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i cant make it shift to the passenger side. the left and right mounts are bolted on. i havent had a chance to put on the axles cause i cant get the rear mount on. does it matter if my RHD crossmember is a 4 door? is there a difference??
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:42 PM
  #18  
G0crxG0's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,683
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, OH
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPEC EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know that EGs and EF chassis are different. im jsut saying that i did a EG RHD conversio</TD></TR></TABLE>
so your telling me you used a EG RHD clip on a EF chassis?
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:52 PM
  #19  
IOSUA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,018
Likes: 0
From: 562
Default Re: (G0crxG0)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G0crxG0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so your telling me you used a EG RHD clip on a EF chassis?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahaha naw man. forgoet i ever said i did a EG RHD. nevermind. my question is, "if my clip had a b series motor in it and im gonna put a d series motor in it, would i have to change that rear mount? is a 4 door EF crossmember different from a EF hatch?"
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 03:17 PM
  #20  
PACT man's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 734
Likes: 1
From: Miami, Fl, USA
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

He means he has done a RHD conversion on a EG(on en EG) before and there was no problem. Now he just did a RHD EF(onto an EF) conversion and has those questions about the mounting about the EF.
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 03:19 PM
  #21  
Fobtions's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,117
Likes: 2
From: SD
Default Re: (JSPEC EF)

im looking at my rhd crossmember and compared it to another usdm . you will have to move the mount over to the left more to use a d, but its missing the hole for it.
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 03:33 PM
  #22  
dkrex001's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Default Re: (Fobtions)

u have a welder just cut the rear mount

and weld a plate to make it work



Modified by dkrex001 at 7:45 PM 3/4/2007
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:28 PM
  #23  
G0crxG0's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,683
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, OH
Default Re: (PACT man)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PACT man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He means he has done a RHD conversion on a EG(on en EG) before and there was no problem. Now he just did a RHD EF(onto an EF) conversion and has those questions about the mounting about the EF.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ahhhhhh

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPEC EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my question is, "if my clip had a b series motor in it and im gonna put a d series motor in it, would i have to change that rear mount?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Now that this is all clear this is a simple ?

If you used the whole front RHD clip, mounts n all, then your problem is the DS mount is placed different than the USDM one (or so I've been told)

What VIN number is on the firewall? you can identify what chasis it came from off the VIN
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:15 PM
  #24  
Slystone's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 432
Likes: 0
From: Montreal, QC, Canada
Default

you simply got like a automatic rear mount...you just need to put a D manuel that is a few inch on a driver side!
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 08:20 PM
  #25  
justseeingifitistaken's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
From: Honolulu, HI, USA
Default Re: (Slystone)

your problem is the rear x-member is a B-series x-member and it IS different than a D-Series X-member. even if you were to use a B-series motor, if you ever used a Motor mount 'kit' for B-series you would have the same issues because the kits are based of the mounting point of a USDM x-member (JDM already has B-series stock, therefore never needing these 'kits'). Also, I remember reading someone's post that did a K swap to a RHD CR-X EF8 and ran into the same problems because all mount kits are made for USDM chassis/x-members. Just my observation, i may be wrong....also if it is automatic x-member then you are in even more problems.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:17 AM.