What frequency works best for you when welding schxx stainless? Also, post up any comparitive non pulse to pulsed weld pics if you have them.

I have 4 frequencies built into my maxstar, and I figured I'd spend some time with that today and see which one works best for me. I have .5pps, 1pps, 2.5pps, and then 60pps.

Any help or advice would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Bryson

 

I pulse alot....especially when fusion welding charge pipes. It helps alot with rhythm and allows me really solid penetration and alot less heat. Of course you know all that....just supporting the fact that it works.

I am at work right now so I don't have any pics but in certain applications I see nice improvements in weld quality and appearance.

My Lincoln has a pulse **** with no specific interval...it's basically infinite. I do about 1 pps though.

 

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But thats charge piping, why would you need to pulse thicker pieces ? I don't see any benefit.

 

its really just about how fast you can move.

id stick with a low setting like 1, but my miller has more options than yours.

also slower for thicker so you can add enough filler.

lots of times however, i just like to keep the pulse feature off and do it manually with my foot.

 

for looks.

 

pulsing the pedal is for people that can't weld that good yet.It makes it look like you can .And most of the time when someone pulses the pedal they are probably going back over a shitty weld to make it look better.Because they didn't do it right the first time.I see alot of people welding cages do that when they mess up.

 

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Figured, its also allowing the weld to cool down which is never good. Keep steady heat, and add filler.

 

the weld really wont cool enough for anything to happen in half a second. but i do see where youre coming from.

i dont think pulsing is bad, and ive used it on some thick high torque shear applications with no failure yet, knock on wood.
that was mild also.

normally however i dont pulse anything that i need to be the strongest joint i can make.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just noticed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pulsing the pedal is for people that can't weld that good yet.It makes it look like you can .And most of the time when someone pulses the pedal they are probably going back over a shitty weld to make it look better.Because they didn't do it right the first time.I see alot of people welding cages do that when they mess up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think this is a misconception, sometimes you dont need a weld that is the strongest you are capable of doing, and everyone has their own techniques on making things look good.

also there are tons of applications where two passes is necesarry, so dont assume going back over an ugle pass means its wrong.
the base pass doesnt need to be pretty since itll be covered up right after anyways.

i use a lot of different welding methods for a lot of different reasons.
different ways to skin a cat.

 

For what boostwerks is doing pulsing is really not required anyway.

What it comes down to is WHAT you are using the pulse feature for. Tiny little pie cuts that heatsoak almost instantly? hell yes I would pulse that and pulse it a lot (I pulse manually even though I have the pulse feature )because it keeps the heat out which is necessary.

On a manifold it's really only used for looks as the pieces are big enough to withstand the heat.

What you really need to do is weld in two passes so you aren't putting tons of heat into the weld in order to get any sort of penetration.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just noticed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pulsing the pedal is for people that can't weld that good yet.It makes it look like you can .And most of the time when someone pulses the pedal they are probably going back over a shitty weld to make it look better.Because they didn't do it right the first time.I see alot of people welding cages do that when they mess up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody here is talking about pedal pumping. Welders come with pulse control.

I've pulsed thick and thin stuff...never have had a weld failure on any manifold yet. Charge piping I did on a turbo setup last year was just involved in a front end collision and the pipe itself tore....welds held fine.

Pulse has many advantages IMO....

 

Well, tried it out earlier today with no real improvement. I noticed the puddle is much more stable but seemed like it was harder to move along for me? But...for some reason my machine is set on 60pps, and I can't seem to change it. I went through the exact process I should to be able to get to the pulse setup mode, but it just scrolls on by it.

I honestly don't really like how miller setup their one button selection process.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nobody here is talking about pedal pumping. Welders come with pulse control.

I've pulsed thick and thin stuff...never have had a weld failure on any manifold yet. Charge piping I did on a turbo setup last year was just involved in a front end collision and the pipe itself tore....welds held fine.

Pulse has many advantages IMO....</TD></TR></TABLE>

But its basically the same concept, people pump the pedal to achieve the look, on thicker stuff using the pulse is only for looks I must say.

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I honestly don't really like how miller setup their one button selection process. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Never had an issue with my miller, I press pps and it changes with the turn of the ****.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RCautoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But its basically the same concept, people pump the pedal to achieve the look, on thicker stuff using the pulse is only for looks I must say.
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Yes, but pedal pumping was a very frowned upon process. Granted the end result is essentially the same, pulse though has an advantage of being quick and precise....not allowing the cooling that you cited earlier.

 

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Nobody here is talking about pedal pumping. Welders come with pulse control.
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Oh really ? maybe you should read a little closer.What does " Some times I use my foot to pulse" mean.That he changes the settings with his toes?And yes some times you do need to make more than one pass.But you should use rod .Not just pulse around weld to make it look good.

What I'm trying to say is ..When you are good enough,You don't need to pulse .I am not puting anyone down just stating facts.And the fact is that RC000E needs to practice it sounds like.

 

i think everyone here knows you need to add filler when pulsing even to get a good look.

and please lets not let anyone think that this "cooling" has any effects on anything. the temp of the metal is still well above eutectic "recrystalizing" temperature so no properties of the steel will change.

 

pedel pumping does the EXACT same thing as a pulser only less consistant and you can't do it 60 times a second unless you are the offspring of a hummingbird.


Anyway this got off topic as we all knew it would.

 

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Oh really ? maybe you should read a little closer.What does " Some times I use my foot to pulse" mean.That he changes the settings with his toes?And yes some times you do need to make more than one pass.But you should use rod .Not just pulse around weld to make it look good.

What I'm trying to say is ..When you are good enough,You don't need to pulse .I am not puting anyone down just stating facts.And the fact is that RC000E needs to practice it sounds like.</TD></TR></TABLE>

#1 Please direct me to where I said "Sometimes I used my foot to pulse"

#2 I don't pulse OVER anything...I use the pulse control and make a weld pass with filler for certain applications. For root passes (when they are necessary) I don't use pulse.

#3 Saying "when you are good enough" you don't need to pulse is simply a dumb f*ckin statement. That's like saying auto-darkening is for those who aren't "good enough" to weld with a regular lense. You use what's available to make things easier while maintaining or in some cases improving quality. That is the purpose of "tools" since the beginning of time.

#4 Who said they don't use filler rod?

#5 Your right, I do need to practice, because I know something that you obviously don't. You'll NEVER master welding to the extent that you can't learn or improve in some way, and you'll never know it all about anything during your existence. All the best ever do in life is continue to practice to improve what they do.

Finally, don't criticize me or pass your noob judgement on me because you have no basis to do so. I have NEVER had a weld failure on any manifold, suspension component, catch can, valve cover, or any other thing I have made. All this coming from the methods I employ and the fact that I utilize pulse in certain applications.

 

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You use what's available to make things easier while maintaining or in some cases improving quality. That is the purpose of "tools" since the beginning of time.
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Not trying to argue, but I don't think it improves any quality on a manifold.

 

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#5 Your right, I do need to practice, because I know something that you obviously don't. You'll NEVER master welding to the extent that you can't learn or improve in some way, and you'll never know it all about anything during your existence. All the best ever do in life is continue to practice to improve what they do.
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Mr thin skin I didn't say that you said it.You said before that NOBODY is talking about pulsing the pedal.And i said look again because other people where talking about it.I might be a noob to having posted on this forum.But that doesn't mean i haven't followed it for some time.And in that time i have seen that you explode every time anybody says anything negitive about you or your skills( or lack of).
With your temper i can't see you ever making it in business.

And one more thing,You don't know me ,But have heard of me.And i will put my fab and welding skills up against anyone you can think of.So if you don't want to learn thats fine with me.And HELL NO i don't use a auto darkening lense.If you get better you will find out why.

 

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I have NEVER had a weld failure on any manifold, suspension component, catch can, valve cover, or any other thing I have made.
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Just shows your lack of experience. EVERYBODY who's been doing this for a while has had a failure or two at some point...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just noticed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mr thin skin I didn't say that you said it.You said before that NOBODY is talking about pulsing the pedal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh boy...we gotta live one here.

If you reread your statement it implied that you were referring to me "pedal pumping", I merely responded to it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just noticed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With your temper i can't see you ever making it in business</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bro...what makes you think I am one of the 40,000 members of Honda-tech that insist on business ownership?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just noticed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And in that time i have seen that you explode every time anybody says anything negitive about you or your skills( or lack of).</TD></TR></TABLE>

As for my response to the rest, I'll go to pm for the sake of boostwerks' thread

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Just shows your lack of experience. EVERYBODY who's been doing this for a while has had a failure or two at some point...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand your technical point, I obviously mean from a perspective of functionality and safety. If you were referring to a true weld failure then I guess I should apologize....I simply haven't had one fail.

Obviously when I first started welding I had weak welds that broke, but I didn't weld anything that truly mattered until I was sure I was capable and could trust the item once complete. If that makes me inexperienced then I suppose I'll graduate when something breaks.

I might add, that I have done extensive cutting of my welds and materials I've welded for educational purposes. I worked alot at ensuring good penetration and making strong welds during my learning curves.


Modified by RC000E at 5:44 PM 2/26/2007

 

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As for my response to the rest, I'll go to pm for the sake of boostwerks' thread


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I hate how almost every thread created ends up off topic, and can be summed up as one big pissing match. Just look at the "bevel" thread for example. It's getting to the point that if something isn't made by the person talking about it, it just isn't good enough to them. Who the F*ck cares. If X person disagrees with Y person, then naturally the Y person has no idea what they are doing, and X must feel the need to bash them only to make themselves feel more important. This kind of logic is retarded, growing, and killing this site.

<U>Helpful</U> advice? Whats that? It's a rarity on this forum.