basically, i have a 2000 civic si with ls/v tec. i had my mind set on just ctr cams when i built the motor but now im thinking of a few other options. the car is a daily driver and im very picky about it. im not buildin the car to be a streight out race car. the only reason i built an ls/vtec is cause i blew my bottom end and had the ls bottom end laying around. i am running itr piston, and valve springs, every thing else is off the b16. also rod bolts and studs. i want to stay in the itr vavle spring set up. what do u guys think.
here are all the cams ive been looking into. not looking to spend over 600
ctr oem
skunk 2 stage 1
buddy club 3
brian crower stage 2
.

 

I have had very good experiences with the Skunk2 Stage 1's.

I had them in my B16, and loved them.

- Derek

 

thanks for ur input

 

Blox cams are nice too. Same as skunk2, and under 600.

 

Stock valvesprings, stock cams.

 

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The Skunk2 Stage 1's are not so radical that the ITR valvetrain cannot support them.

Keep the revs conservative.

 

thanks for the input so far. i saw that the buddy club3 dont say anything about upgrading the valve train. also the brian crowers look to be inbetween skunk 2 stage 1 n 2s. but i dont no if its safe. im going to be pushing the motor till 8500.
my redline is 8800 but i dont push it that much

 

please tell you you upgrade your rod bolts if youre going to be spinning that high.

 

yes i did

 

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...and not make as much power. OR you could spend the whoppin $250-300 bucks for good valvetrain and rev to where your car makes power. Turn around and sell your type r valvetrain for $150 and you've got a fatty $150 bucks out of your pocket. But no, that makes too much sense.

 

so where exactly do u think my car is going to make power. lets see the car is a DAILY DRIVER, and its also an ls/vtec,. last that i heard 8500 to 8800 rpm on this motor was a little high. i guess i should just get springs and retainers and rev to 9000, that really sound good.

but thanks agian d-rob for ur imput i think the skunk2s are what im going to go with

 

I seen valves bind at revs less than 8500 rpm. Do a search for B-series valves springs thread. There's a good write up on stock valve spring capabilities, and several aftermarket brands. That's what made me decide to ditch my itr vavlespring combo for some supertechs.

 

well as far as i know an ls/v, dd, and high revs dont really go hand in hand. can an ls/v even make power past 8k??

 

uh yea they can make power past 8k ? lol seen them make power to 9200 with pro1s

 

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Umm, no...not with Pro 1 's.

 

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...and not make as much power. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Skunk2 Stage 1's will peak at like, 7800 RPM on an engine like the OP's.

I wouldn't say he'd be "not making as much power."

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OR you could spend the whoppin $250-300 bucks for good valvetrain and rev to where your car makes power. Turn around and sell your type r valvetrain for $150 and you've got a fatty $150 bucks out of your pocket. But no, that makes too much sense. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, valvetrain prices really are so low these days that everyone should be able to scrounge together the funds for a good setup.

But, that wasn't the question. He asked which cams he should buy, I recommended a cam I had good experience with, and simply stated the fact that the Stage 1's need not valvetrain upgrade unless revving beyond the factory rev limit.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ef_you_up &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well as far as i know an ls/v, dd, and high revs dont really go hand in hand. can an ls/v even make power past 8k??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Funny, mine goes to 8800-9000 RPM daily...

- Derek

 

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Funny, mine goes to 8800-9000 RPM daily...

- Derek
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i guess what i am trying to say is that a dd should be reliable

and revving that motor so high like that is anything but that

 

If he wants a realiable DD then some blox Type A cams will be well under $400 and with the extra money some supertech, or RM valves springs for $150, that's realiable and still under his $600 budget.

 

yes, i dont have them yet but....

SKUNK 2 STAGE 1 CAMS ..... seriously, i hear nothing but awesome news about them, im going to buy mine prob in june... just a suggestion

 

do not get blox, they do not give as much power as skunk2....in cams, intake manifolds etc.

 

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You've got to be kidding me.

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
youve got to be gay...

 

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youve got to be gay...

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You DO realize the cams are 100% the exact copies of the Skunk2's, right?

Let's see here...

If two sets of cams share identical lift and duration specs...

They make the same power!

What a brilliant deduction!

You're a ******* tool, irregardless of your agreement with me on the cam choice for the OP.

"What's in a name? Would a rose, by any other name, smell as sweet?"



- Derek

 

wow, I'm surprised noone recommends the BC3+. There are some dynos of them floating around OWNING the S2S1 all the way up to like 7800 rpms. The Skunks made a couple more up top but the BC3+ cam dominated through most RPM's. Either way, I would recommend a better valvetrain. If I use my BC3+ (I may go bigger), I'll be using ITR outers and portflow inners that I bought from JHP a while back. Good luck.




Modified by JAYSEM Society at 10:48 AM 2/26/2007

 

True.

I did not suggest the BC3+'s, simply because I have no personal experience with them.

But yes, I have seen many dynos proving what you're saying.

- Derek