Rear disc conversion on the civic hb???

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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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im doing a rear disc converson on my 89 honda civic hb. they are drums now but i my friend told me to take the axel our of a 93' integra and it will bolt right up.... anyone done this before??? i need some feed back on this to see how much of a pain this will really be
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Here's the complete shopping list for the rear disk swap:

Rear trailing arm with hub assembly for disk brakes
Upper control arm
Compensator arms (at the front end of trailing arm)
Rotors
Brake calipers and brackets
Brake pads with shims (get the genuine Honda ones)
Parking brake cables
Preparation
Since you have all the parts lying on the floor, there's no better time to clean them up. Using a wire brush attachment on a rotary tool, the calipers as well as the hub assembly were cleaned up. A coat of heat resistant paint was then applied to protect the bare metal surfaces.

Disassembly
Remove the parking brake cover on the inside of the car and release the parking brake cables from the parking brake equalizer. You might want to loosen the adjustment nut to make this easier.
Release the two bolts that hold the end of the metal parking brake end and remove the metal holder from the parking brake cables.
Jack the car up front the rear and support it on jack stands. Make sure everything is secure.
Remove the wheel. You're not going to get anything done with the wheel there.
Use a good 10mm wrench and disconnect the brake line. Remove the metal clip that holds the flexible brake line in place. Brake fluid will start dripping so put some shop towels to soak up the dripping fluid.
Getting under the car, trace the parking brake cables. They should lead under the exhaust pipe heat shield. Each cable should also have two metal mounting points on the chassis, somewhere close to the fuel tank.
Release the parking cable mounts and try to get the cable free.
It might be difficult to reach the cables because the exhaust pipe and heat shield are in the way, so you might want to remove the exhaust pipe and bend the end of the heat shield away from the body. Two bolts hold the end of the heat shield to the chassis.
Reach between heat shield and pull out the parking brake cables. If you released the cables properly, they should come out pretty easily.
Here comes the main part. Remove the two bolts on the outer end of the lower control arm. One is connected to the trailing arm and the other connects the rear shock assembly to the lower arm.
Open the trunk and unbolt the rear shock assembly, and remove it from the wheel well. You'll find that you can push the lower control arm out of the way to make this easier.
Release the bolt that connects the upper control arm to the trailing arm.
Release the two bolts that hold the upper control arm in place and remove the arm.
Go under the car and remove the bolt that connects the front compensator arm to the chassis.

Finally, support the trailing arm while releasing the two main bolts that hold the main trailing arm on the chassis. The arm should come free and you can now remove it completely.
Reassembly
Connect the new front compensator arm to the end of the new trailing arm.
Position the trailing arm and bolt it in place.
Bolt the front compensator arm to the chassis. This might be a little tricky but flexing the trailing arm from side to side helps to line up the bolt holes.
Replace the upper control arm and bolt it in place. The center surface of the arm should curve towards the rear of the car.
Bolt the other end of the upper control arm to the top end of the trailing arm.
Reposition the shock assembly. The lower end of the shock assembly should have the side with the welded nut facing towards the front of the car. Bolt the lower end of the shock assembly up to the lower control arm.
Now bolt the top end of the shock assembly back to the shock tower. Lifting the lower arm upwards will make this easier.
Put in the last bolt that connects the lower control arm to the lower end of the trailing arm.

Everything should bolt up fine at this stage. Double check that the bolts are torqued in properly. You don't want anything to come loose on the street.
Brake Installation
The suspension is now ready for the new brakes. First, put in the rotors and screw them in place with the 6mm phillips screws. It's not necessary to tighten these screws like everything else, but make sure that they are pretty tight so that the rotor is aligned right.
Next, bolt in the caliper mounting brackets top the mounting points on the rear of the hub assembly. Spray the entire brake rotor to get rid of any residual oil.
Get under the car again and install the new parking brake cables. Insert the end into the car and oil the cable grommets slightly so that it will push into the oval holes easily. Make sure you get the left and right sides correct. The cables are marked on one of the mounting brackets.
Run the cable through the rear hole on the trailing arm and over the hub assembly.

Put the pad retainers into the caliper bracket. The center portion of the retainers should hold themselves against the brackets.
Break open the new pads and attach the shims at the back of the pads. Apply some Molykote M77 on the inside pad (the one with the small metal piece attached to it). Honda pads should come with shims and Molykote M77.
Insert the pad into position. The inner pad should have the small metal piece on the top end.

Before reinstalling the calipers, reset the piston by turning the piston clockwise as much as possible. A large pry bar in the piston slots will work, but be careful not to tear the rubber piston boot.
Apply some Molykote on the caliper mounting pins and insert the pins into the caliper bracket. Make sure the pins can slide smoothly in and out of the bracket holes.
Put the pad spring into the hole of the caliper and push the caliper into place over the pads. Bolt up the caliper to the mounting pins.
Connect the flexible brake line to the banjo bolt fitting on the rear of the caliper. For best fit, the fitting should angle inwards, towards the caliper.
Bolt up the rest of the flexible brake line and reconnect it to the original brake lines. Everything should fit just right.
Pull the parking cable and insert it through the hole in the parking brake bracket and use the clip (salvaged from the old brake hardware) and clip it in place.

Connect the end of the parking brake to the parking brake actuator arm and make sure everything is secure.
Double check everything just to be on the safe side.
Finishing the job
After both sides are done, reconnect the parking brake cables to the parking brake lever and reassemble the parking cable holder.
Using the adjustment nut, adjust the parking brakes until you get a good initial feel.
By now, the brake fluid reservoir should be close to empty. Refill the brake reservoir and prepare to bleed the brake lines.
Fill a clear bottle with 2" of brake fluid and attach a small rubber hose to the bleed nipples. Dip the other end of the rubber hose into the bottle of brake fluid.
Get a friend to pump the brakes several times and then loosen the nipple. Air should bubble through the brake fluid in the bottle.
With the end of the tube still submerged under the brake fluid, pump the brake until no more air bubbles can be seen. Make sure the main reservoir always has enough fluid or you'll end up pumping air back into the lines.
Finally tighten the bleed nipple.
Repeat for the other side.
Just to be sure, bleed the front brakes too. Feel free to flush out the entire brake system while at it. The final brake feel should be firm, although you'll find that the brake pedal travel is somewhat more, due to the larger pistons in the rear calipers. If it feels spongy, it's possible you still have air in the lines.
Replace the wheels and lower the car.
Driving slowly at first, check your parking brakes to see if they work right. If they seem too loose, tighten the adjustment nut a little and try again.
Take the car out for a short test drive. Be very careful because the new pads and/or rotors need some time to get broken in.

COMPLEMENTS OF HYBRID GARAGE.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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i did this swap on my 89 hb and it was pairly simple. it takes a lil while (like 3 hours if you do it right) but it is def worth it. i didnt change my master cylinder or the 404 prop valve and they feel great. good luck on ur swap.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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What do you mean take the axle out of an Integra? If you're doing a rear disc conversion why would you need an Integra axle?
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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lmao
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Rear disc conversion on the civic hb??? (boosted89sils)

Silly noob. FWD means no rear axles on our cars.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted89sils &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Upper control arm
Compensator arms (at the front end of trailing arm)
</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, no, no do not replace these in fact don't even lossen the front compensator arm
(this will keep your alignment in the rear ok).
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you mean take the axle out of an Integra? If you're doing a rear disc conversion why would you need an Integra axle? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I was about to say the same
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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maybe his civic is AWD
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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you can use the stock compensator and uca
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Eg6 rear disc work....i used the complete trailing arm from the eg and GSR control arms...DA e-brake cables and DA brake fluid lines. WORKED GREAT!
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