Does anyone know what "bolt in" roll cages are accepted by the scca. Pre-fabbed cages. Thanks.

 

Which SCCA class are you referring to?

 

Im looking at solo, but i also was to do track racing. but that can come later.

 

anyone?

 

I don't know who makes these bolt in cages, but I believe they are only allowed on showroom stock and improved touring race cars. Do a web search for bolt in cages for showroom or IT racing classes or cars.

 

i wasn't ness. refering to cages that actually bolt to the floor. i was refering to pre fabbed cages that are form fitted to applications, as opposed to custom cages.

 

oh. In that case try Autopower. They should have a kit for anything. The kit will likely require some sort of customization with the new SCCA rules about door bars, but nothing complicated. My cage started from an Autopower kit, albeit with quite a bit of customization.

 

what kind of customization?

 

Kirk Racing

They are located in Birmingham, AL

 

thats a roll bar. i need a cage.

 

http://kirkracing.com/bolt-in_roll_cage.htm

1. What kind of car is it?
2. Is it still street driven?

 

I'd suggest a roll <u>bar</u>, if anything at all. If you get the autopower "race" rollbar, you can get a kit to turn it into a full cage at a later time. You don't want a roll cage in a street car because:

1) You will hit your bare head on it. That really really hurts when you just do it on accident, and it's a pretty serious injury when you do it in a wreck. I have the expensive SFI-rated padding on mine and that helps a lot (It no longer hurts when I bump my bare head on it), but it still would not be "fun" in an accident without a helmet on, and I promise you that constantly bumping into it gets old real fast. While a custom welded cage can give you another inch or two in some places, it will still be close, and some spots just don't have any more room to work with.

2) Climbing over double door bars is usually a pain in the ***. Single bars are just an annoyance, but neither SCCA nor NASA allows single bars on the driver's side anymore. A removable steering wheel will help, but it's still not something you want to be doing daily. The amount of room you have to work with varies between different types of cars (ie my Porsche is a lot tighter than my Integra), but the bottom line is that it's not going to be much different than climbing out through your window.

3) You will lose your interior. Yes, Autopower cages are meant to accomodate most interiors, sometimes with minor trimming, but in reality, it's easier and more practical to just strip the interior than to try to figure out a way to keep it. At the very least, you'll lose your sun visors, have to hack up your door panels, and chop holes in your carpeting. You might as well just gut the thing to make life simpler and try to counteract some of the weight of the cage.

4) A cage is added weight, and a bolt-in cage does not improve chasis stiffness enough to really matter. Cages are most often attached to sheet metal, not the frame. So there's no real performance advantage, only the disavantage of weight.

5) Without knowing what class you want to be road racing in yet, you should hold off on getting the cage. Different classes have different rules. Gutting your interior and installing a cage is also likely to screw up your autocross classing.



Modified by Weston at 3:12 PM 2/23/2007

 

1. 93 dx hatch.
2. Yes.

 

Some advice:

Buy a rollbar... learn how to drive at speed on the track.... save your $$$ and then buy a car, do not build.

Granted, I love building (because it never ends) my Honda Challenge ITR, but, it would of been wiser to just buy an ITS GSR or ITA LS.

 

I already have experience. I've gone to schools, some open events, i've had drivers ride with me. now i want to put it to use.

 

SCCA rules are soon to change to "weld in" for wheel to wheel racing.......good luck

 

ugh, looks like nasa is the way to go :D

 

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All classes? What's the source on this?


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That's what most people who have tried it say.

 

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nasa will fallow suit shortly after.


has to do with a bunch of legality stuff.

 

envee,

Until that is added in their rule book (if?), don't make your decision on where you'll be racing based on this speculation. You may still find that buying a pre-fabbed cage and having it welded in is the best option anyways.

 

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Fixed for ya

 

Agreed.

 

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Until that is added in their rule book (if?), don't make your decision on where you'll be racing based on this speculation. You may still find that buying a pre-fabbed cage and having it welded in is the best option anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, I haven't heard anything more than rumors about this happening.

Bolt-in cages do have their disadvantages, but it sure is a nice cheap way to get started (we all know there are plenty of other expenses involved, especially with HANS).