I have a question that sounds dumb. (and probably is) i was wondering if any of you guys have ever swapped a gsr motor into a prelude. There are some reasons that i would do it. Ill let u know of some when u guys answer my question

 

No, no one has done it. Now, tell us why you would do it. I'm curious.

 

yeah, no one has done it

and you better have a better reason than wanting a b-series tranny

 

less dislacement (by alot) = less torque


y?, lol

 

well no the reason isnt b series tranny bc they sell conversion kits for that. My reasoning is, if u do a b series u cant just put it without turbo. or else its pointless. why not turbo an h22? bc B series motors handle boost much better. even after u build up an h22 it still isnt as reliable as a b18. (i know this because my friend has a fully build h22 and he blows it almost every time he takes it to the track) ne way. the B motors are a bit lighter too. Idk there are alot of pros and cons about this

 

Holly crap, that answer holds no valid point what so ever.

 

who said an h22 is unreliable? the people who never tune their turbo h22? or the ones with brains and tune asap?

 

Whoever tuned your friend's h22 must suck.

2.2 liter in a 3000 lb car > 1.8 liter in a 3000 lb car

 

its not even that. lets say you have a 93 lude with a single cam. and instead of puttin h22 u put b18c. wouldent it still be fast than the single cam f22?

 

No, it'll most likely be slower.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GsrIntegra789 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well no the reason isnt b series tranny bc they sell conversion kits for that. My reasoning is, if u do a b series u cant just put it without turbo. or else its pointless. why not turbo an h22? bc B series motors handle boost much better. even after u build up an h22 it still isnt as reliable as a b18. (i know this because my friend has a fully build h22 and he blows it almost every time he takes it to the track) ne way. the B motors are a bit lighter too. Idk there are alot of pros and cons about this</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe your friend just has a badly built/badly tuned H22. Most built engine can be relatively reliable if the engine builder/tuner know what they're doing. Reliability lies with who's building/tuning, IMO. I wanna know how a B18 would run if the builder/tuner don't know what the heck he/she is doing.

Besides, Preludes are kinda heavy. We need the H-series torque.

 

wat are u kidding me? the f22 motor that come in ludes have 130 hp or so. b18c1 has 170. how would it be slower. the b18 has as much tourque as the f22 has horse power

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ralpheezy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoever tuned your friend's h22 must suck.

2.2 liter in a 3000 lb car &gt; 1.8 liter in a 3000 lb car</TD></TR></TABLE>

could be true bc it was tuned my turbo trix in edison. but who knows .. what if it was tuned right it just cant handle the boost. he was boosting 24 lbs and the motor couldent take it. even with it being fully built . A block guard strenghened sleeves low compression pistons eagle rods still wouldent hold 24 lbs

yet i know a guy who made 630 whp on a b20 vtec with the same amout of pressure

 

Torque moves cars.
F22 140something hp 140 something tq
B18C 170 hp 128 tq

It's al in the powerband, not the peak numbers.

 

you are saying that instead of putting in a more powerful and torqier motor that is easily swapable, you would instead go through the trouble of mounting in a smaller B series motor?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GsrIntegra789 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wat are u kidding me? the f22 motor that come in ludes have 130 hp or so. b18c1 has 170. how would it be slower. the b18 has as much tourque as the f22 has horse power</TD></TR></TABLE>

Another thing is money. With a GSR swap, you'll probably need lots of custom stuff. A H22 is pretty much bolt in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thegeorge613 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe your friend just has a badly built/badly tuned H22. Most built engine can be relatively reliable if the engine builder/tuner know what they're doing. Reliability lies with who's building/tuning, IMO. I wanna know how a B18 would run if the builder/tuner don't know what the heck he/she is doing.

Besides, Preludes are kinda heavy. We need the H-series torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a good point thats why i was just wondering if anyone has done the B series swap before. i also mentioned that the B motor would have to be turbo unless its pointless

 

yea, blame it on the motor for blowing up......


built engines are only as reliable as the builder. A built motor can expletive up just as easy as a stock motor.


and 24lbs of boost isnt exactly a small amount of boost.

 

I say do it so I can laugh at you. Dont ever say an h22 is unreliable with boost. Who ever built or most likely slapped on your friends turbo set up is garb. Here is a link to alot of well built, well tuned, high Hp H22s. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1833278 I cant believe your serious. Any motor boosted without proper tunning etc is unreliable.

 

24 isnt small at all. But thats just my point. why can the b20 hold it but not the h22. also the h22 was built by a reletively respectable shop. they have alot of experience with turboed cars so im sure they know what they are doing when it comes to building a motor and turboing it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectBB6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say do it so I can laugh at you. Dont ever say an h22 is unreliable with boost. Who ever built or most likely slapped on your friends turbo set up is garb. Here is a link to alot of well built, well tuned, high Hp H22s. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1833278 I cant believe your serious. Any motor boosted without proper tunning etc is unreliable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so u can laugh at me? i dont even own a prelude. i was just wondering if people have ever done such a swap. get ur head out of ur *** it was just a question

 

It wasnt even the question. It was the fact that you think h22s are unreliable because your friend keeps blown his up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GsrIntegra789 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could be true bc it was tuned my turbo trix in edison. but who knows .. what if it was tuned right it just cant handle the boost. he was boosting 24 lbs and the motor couldent take it. even with it being fully built . A block guard strenghened sleeves low compression pistons eagle rods still wouldent hold 24 lbs

yet i know a guy who made 630 whp on a b20 vtec with the same amout of pressure</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, i guess oaksracing prelude and md23vtec prelude cant handle the boost either...

ebay turbo kits and safc are things that i wouldnt consider tuning. which is prolly what your friend used.

but go ahead...put that b series in a prelude, boost it. and ill boost my h22 lets see whos is more reliable.

 

Look at it this way: No one has swaped a B into a Prelude, but MANY people have swaped H motors into civics and integras despite the GSR or type r options...regardless of boost and N/A setups. Your friend could have had a B built in the exact same manner as the H and it probably still would have blown.

 

guys, i dont even know why we are even talkin about this...he answered him self in the first sentence.

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