Thanks for input, performance wise?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1786212

 

I would suggest the coilover kit... you should have more adjustability with the tein kit.

 

KONI + Ground Control
Tein is junk. yes ive used it, yes i hate it.

 

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I'm waiting for the hardcore Tein lovers to come in!


Another vote for Koni + GC

 

koni + GC!

 

koni GC here as well. it just works

 

I don't have TEINS; not yet anyway but i heard the FLEX is good, what are the poor qualities these coilover possess.

I know koni yellows provide good damping adjustability, i dont even see you dudes mention spring rates? and for what type of driving?

Im on H&R race springs on +1''sleeves with blown stock shocks now, so anything is better than what i am currently running.

I don't even drive my car right now

 

Koni + GC sleeves.

Teins will all those "clicks" for shock settings=marketing bling. But the kids on the street will think it is cooler.

 

koni with a slip on coil-over is crap, a threaded body coil-over will always be better

 

hahaha someone is going to have fun with this guys comment ^^^

I'll dismiss myself from the room, I think I tooted.. .

 

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Quoted for hilarity lol.

 

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i have wondered this too, maybe bc the slip over coil overs "arent solid" when there is no pressure holding them down... like when the car is raised up on a lift.... or when you take a right hand corner and the right rear wheel starts to lift off of the road... hmmmm

 

ummm there is something called

""PRE-LOAD""

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Koni/GC is better than Tein Basic/SS/Flex and maybe their higher end models too for HONDA applications.. . People spend $600-1000 PER shock just to place into a SLEEVE type Coilover System... Now why on earth would they do that???

Spend 2.5 - 4 Gs on a good Tein setup, then you have to worry about YOU the opperater actually being able to USE them CORRECTLY without totally bugging up your suspension balance.. .

 

I've had tien flex, and now have konis/GCs on my track car. the flex is fine for a street car, and very light track duty, but once you get on the track, you start to notice the shortcomings of the system.

In that price range, an SPSS3 (race valved) koni yellow and GC setup is the way to go if you are serious about track events.

 

what type of track events?

 

i noticed people on here uses a wide range of different spring rates with the koni yellows. im curious to know how many of you actually get them revalved for your spring rates?

 

We have a Koni rep on the forum and the GC/Koni combo is a tried and true setup. Good luck getting any help from Tein.

IMO Tein is for the ricers.
GC/koni is for the racers.

BTW I have the gc/koni setup on my 91 hatch and love it.


Modified by Cory man at 7:16 AM 2/16/2007

 

I have used both the Koni coilover kit (full coilovers, not the sleeves) and Tein flex on my car. The Koni kit I found the spring rates were rather low. Not bad for a daily driver, but for a less daily driven car you would definitley consider going stiffer.

The flex have a few main advantages over the Koni. Firstly the spring rates are higher, but still acceptable for street use (your girl won't like it though!). Then you have the adjustable lower mounts. The Tein also has much larger diameter dampers (can drive rough roads longer without heating up as much).

Then of course you have the option of pillowball on the Tein, which is not really such a big factor on the double wishbone setup. And if you like ricing things up there is always the EDFC...

Having run both setups, I vote for the flex over the Koni.

 

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Yes, many people get them revalved for RACE rates - when using around 600# springs, you need to get them revalved.

You can buy them already revlaved from a few different places online. G/C can offer this service I beleive.

If you are looking at starting with Konis and G/C for spring rates around 600 and higher, you should look into getting the SPSS3 valved setup as well. The bodies are shortened on these but still give close to the same travel as the Koni yellow WITH the top hats installed.. . Good for EGs and Dc2s, not sure about EKs


Modified by 6spdKEG at 9:16 AM 2/16/2007

 

g/c and koni for me. i do track events and some touge sometimes.. my friend has the most expensive buddy club coils on his dc5 and all the car does is bounce around... i really dont know how to explain it but with my car i can feel the road when i drive like every crack.. but his car is smooth and just bounces around. anyways i cant explain it but koni and gc is the way to go !

 

I too didn't want to believe in koni and gc 5 years ago...

Had Tein, had omnipower...been changing set ups 2-3 times a year

finally got some koni and H&R race...fell in love, now running spss3 konis with GC and I could not be happier and i can not imagine changing my set up again.

buy whatever you wanna buy, but if you get anything else than koni and gc in that price range, you'll get crap and be unsatisfied if you do any kind of performance oriented event.

people satisfied with cheap taiwainese coilover could not care less of performance.

welcome to reality

 

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Actually, its pretty well documented that most of the JDM coilovers, including Tein, are really bad with fade.

 

Koni/GC

 

If you want a good kit that actually performs, get Koni/GC. Tein has basically taken over the market because of good marketing, but if you look at dyno charts their dampers rarely hold up. I have had Koni/GC on Del Sols, Integra's, RSX's, etc. and not a single complaint. Sure you have to revalve the Koni's if you want to increase your spring rate over 700Lbs (as I was told by a GC rep) but you will probably have to do the same if you go with Tein. 15 - 36 clicks doesnt mean that every single one of those clicks is going to adjust the rate.

I just ran 450 front and 650 rear on my DC5 and it was a great set up. I went to Buddy Club RSD's because the dampers can hold up to more punishment and higher spring rates w/ out revalving.

Overall, Koni and GC

 

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Your friends suspension is probably set up incorrectly. If he has the P1 dampers then he must really have the settings all over the place and those things shouldnt really be used for street driving.