i have searched and found out all things except for how much better than stock it is. is this even worth doing or should i just get crossed drilled rotors and call it a day. i need some stoping power because my car recently has gotten a lot more power. somebody please lead me in the right direction. thanks

 

You need more stopping power? Or more fade resistance?

I have standard ITR brakes with upgraded pads and fluid and I don't feel the need for any more "stopping power"... however I feel that NSX calipers coupled with the larger/thicker rotors could definitely offer better fade resistance..

Remember you can only stop as fast as your tyres grip allows...

 

i have radials. where can i find nsx calipers and what is fade resistance? when you say you have upgrade fluid, what kind is it and what is the difference?

 

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Go with some better pads, such as Cobalt or Hawk, and some autozone rotors or brembo blanks. With the cross drilled, you are only going to experience premature rotor failure. If it is modulation you are after, then the NSX caliper w/ legend GS rotor is a cheap upgrade, but is better for exactly that.. modulation, not "stopping power."

Also, if you plan for the NSX upgrade, you can get the OE rebuilt NSX calipers form autozone/advance/napa/etc for around $56 each. They all outsource the same company that rebuilds them; its just a matter if they have them available for order (they tend to only have one side available at a given time and takes about 4 weeks for the other, from my personal experience).

 

thanks for the good advice. will just the nsx calipers on stock rotors be better for stopping power or should i keep the stock calipers with the pad upgrade?

 

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I would go with a pad upgrade, thats it. As for OEM rotors, go with autozone.. they are roughly $20ea and can take one hell of a harsh track beating (MUCH cheaper than OEM). There are many good Hawk, Axxis, KVR, and Cobalt compounds that will meet or exceed your needs.

 

ok thanks for the good info! you just saved me a bunch of money!

 

do you know any websites selling hawk or cobalt pads for a good price.

 

Check the Expo sponsers out, they always hook us ITR owners up
Need a link?
http://itrca.com/events/expo6.php

 

thanks for the help, but i could not find anything in the link you posted.

 

i am looking at a bunch of hawk pads and i'm not sure if i should get ceramic or ferro-carbon. what is the difference.

 

so is the legend gs rotor and nsx caliper just a bolt on upgrade? and how about the rear nsx rotors and calipers?

 

Do these NSX calipers really make that much of a difference vs stock? Why are so many people going down this route? Worth it?

 

Might want to refer to this thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1776114

 

get your cobalt pads at http://www.cobaltfriction.com

 

Do pads, fluid and maybe sstainless steel brake lines. You will be amazed by the results. Replace your rotors if they need to be replaced but don't let yourself get sucked in by all the hoopla about cross drilled, slotted, and dimpled rotors.

 

I installed last week the hawk pads Blue 9012 but havent really tested them to give u a feedback.
Lets see if these r enough to stop a turbo´ed R whenever is needed, other than that i have SS brakelines, brembo oem replacement rotors and ferodo dot 5.1 brake fluid.

 

Some quick facts to answer some questions above:

1. in terms of clamping force: itr calipers &gt; gs calipers &gt; nsx calipers
2. in my experience 2-piston calipers offer slightly better pad wear than single piston calipers
3. ss brake lines do not increase braking performance, they just firm up the pedal
4. the most important part of the braking system is the tires
5. an itr's braking system is tire limited. Unless you're experiencing brake fade, and unless you track your itr it's not likely that you are, there's no need to "upgrade" your brakes beyond fresh fluid and good pads

 

For a street car - pad upgrade is fine - but for a car that is taken to the racetrack on a regular basis - the difference is huge

The main benefit of the upgrade is thicker (28mm vs 23 mm) rotors - which provide better heat sink/fade resistance. This is important if you are using high performance brake pads which are going to generate A LOT MORE HEAT ENERGY than the stock setup. That's why I don't like the stock rotors - they overheat and you get hot spots --&gt; transfer of pad material to the rotor and then the runout increases and you get pulsation in the brake pedal. Since Type R rotors are so cheap - a lot of people get around this pulsation problem by changing rotors more frequently - but I think it's a pain in the *** to do that.

The NSX setup also fits easily under 15" rims (see below)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47305622@N00/389340867/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47305622@N00/389340871/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47305622@N00/389340869/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47305622@N00/389340873/

Modified by Big Phat R at 11:10 AM 2/13/2007


Modified by Big Phat R at 3:04 PM 2/13/2007

 

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The main benefit of the upgrade is thicker (26mm vs 22 mm) rotors - which provide better heat sink/fade resistance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't have my car @ the moment, but im almost positive NSX/Legend GS rotors are 28mm thick.

 

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I don't have my car @ the moment, but im almost positive NSX/Legend GS rotors are 28mm thick.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes they are and stock itr is 23mm. i got his point though.

 

i have over 400whp and just want to make sure that i can stop when i need to.

 

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get a set of nice tires and big brake kit

 

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I don't have my car @ the moment, but im almost positive NSX/Legend GS rotors are 28mm thick.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My bad

28mm and 23mm are correct sir

&lt;edited my post&gt;

 

i have BFG's, so my tires are cool. as far as big brake setup...i heard that is was overated. i am thing that a good set of pads and new rotors and fluid will be the key. thanks guys for showing me the light.