OK I am starting a new Lucas thread because I have just used the stuff for the first time and I am amazed by how good it is. Now in the previous 30 threads on this product people always bring up some Bobistheoilguy article. That article is completely innacurate. For one there is no heat like what an engine would create in his little gear mechanism, he puts in way too much Lucas to oil, and there isnt any pressure put on the oil. So of course it foams. Anyway I am using this stuff and love it. I have an OBD0 b16a and put in .5 quart in my engine with an oil change and the other .5 quart in my transmission when I had it serviced. My engine leak is gone, the engine idles and runs soo much smoother and it fires up instantly every morning. My transmission feels way smoother and still does the typical 3rd gear grind at high revs but it is far quieter. Anyway post your opinions on this product, and please no posts unless you use the stuff.

 

This is my experience. I started using it in my 91 sedan at 130.xxx miles, 4 oil changes later, it locked up dead.
On teardown, come to find out, the crank and its bearings were all siezed and the journals were all plugged with filth, same in the head, all the oil passages were all clogged and filthy.

I WOULDN'T USE THAT **** AGAIN IF THEY PAID ME TO USE IT!!

...........................ever again..........................

But thats just me.

And I am a religous oil changer and I used it as directed.

Just use a quality synthetic.

 

Wow. I was looking for stories with happy endings, but thanks for the post. How much of the stuff were you using per oil change?

 

Replacing one quart with lucas, just like they said....

The only thing it does is thicken your viscosity rating. Even though its purly petroleum, it thickens the **** out of your oil,

That equals bad news for four bangers, as they have small oil passages and holes in the journals in the crank and the bearings.

Please don't use it.

 

If you're using quality oil, and probably even shitty oil, you're best off skipping on additive packages.

 

I have a close friend who got screwed and unknowingly bought an '89 Crx, D15B2 with a manual 5 speed underneath it. It ran great! That is , until, the trans started to whine a few days later. While I was checking the fluid level, I noticed that the there was an oily spot on the trans case underneath the mount at the firewall. Upon further inspection, I noticed a big crack in the housing. Turns out that a whole chunk of the housing completely broke off. The chunk contains the three mounting bolt holes. Therefore the eng/trans was not being supported back there at all. Even though the chunk was still bolted to the mount. Apparently the car had been hit on the front right tire. The inner and outer fender had been replaced/repaired as well as a different tire installed. I figure the weakest point broke, the casing on the housing at the mount area. Anyway, I filled the tranny with the 1.9 qts. of fluid and backed it out of the driveway, drove up the street, flipped a bitch, and saw a beautiful fat dark trail of tranny fluid emanating from the garage. All the fluid had been spit out already. So, I improvised a steel strap,made of stiff angle iron and attached one end to the mount, utilizing two of the three bolts and I lifted the eng/trans slightly with a floor jack in an effort to close the gap that was there where the chunk and the housing come together. The fit was perfect. It was(is) a clean break. I attached the other end of the strap/bracket to the tranny utilizing the Tranny filler bolt. I then applied(so far, a whole lot) of gasket sealer to the resulting "crack". I filled it up again. This time the oil stayed in considerably longer, About 40-50 miles. Then it's empty again. So, as we have been searching for a replacement tranny to install, I've been constantly refilling the tranny. I have found that thicker fluid tends to not leak out as quickly. I'de say that I have absolutely nothing but Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer in that trans. For about 1000 miles so far. Shifting is still o.k. but I think the clutch is starting to wear, normal. It still empties, and I still pump Nothing but Lucas into it, the thick stuff. So, as We desperately search for any working 5speed manual clutch type tranny that will bolt directly with no modifications there or elsewhere, That is what we will continue to do. Lucas has been phenomenal. However, I must confess, I do believe that any trans other than a Honda, would not be fairing as well. These Honda cars are amazing! This is my Lucas story! Anybody have a trans?

 

99.999% of additives like this are definitely snake oil. They will cause more harm than good.

If you want something that really works, to just thoroughly clean your motor out and eliminate any leaks or lost combustion you may have, Auto-Rx is the only way to go.

 

I just used Valvoline High Milage the heaviest they had 20w50 I think.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tkilroy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a close friend who got screwed and unknowingly bought an '89 Crx, D15B2 with a manual 5 speed underneath it. It ran great! That is , until, the trans started to whine a few days later. While I was checking the fluid level, I noticed that the there was an oily spot on the trans case underneath the mount at the firewall. Upon further inspection, I noticed a big crack in the housing. Turns out that a whole chunk of the housing completely broke off. The chunk contains the three mounting bolt holes. Therefore the eng/trans was not being supported back there at all. Even though the chunk was still bolted to the mount. Apparently the car had been hit on the front right tire. The inner and outer fender had been replaced/repaired as well as a different tire installed. I figure the weakest point broke, the casing on the housing at the mount area. Anyway, I filled the tranny with the 1.9 qts. of fluid and backed it out of the driveway, drove up the street, flipped a bitch, and saw a beautiful fat dark trail of tranny fluid emanating from the garage. All the fluid had been spit out already. So, I improvised a steel strap,made of stiff angle iron and attached one end to the mount, utilizing two of the three bolts and I lifted the eng/trans slightly with a floor jack in an effort to close the gap that was there where the chunk and the housing come together. The fit was perfect. It was(is) a clean break. I attached the other end of the strap/bracket to the tranny utilizing the Tranny filler bolt. I then applied(so far, a whole lot) of gasket sealer to the resulting "crack". I filled it up again. This time the oil stayed in considerably longer, About 40-50 miles. Then it's empty again. So, as we have been searching for a replacement tranny to install, I've been constantly refilling the tranny. I have found that thicker fluid tends to not leak out as quickly. I'de say that I have absolutely nothing but Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer in that trans. For about 1000 miles so far. Shifting is still o.k. but I think the clutch is starting to wear, normal. It still empties, and I still pump Nothing but Lucas into it, the thick stuff. So, as We desperately search for any working 5speed manual clutch type tranny that will bolt directly with no modifications there or elsewhere, That is what we will continue to do. Lucas has been phenomenal. However, I must confess, I do believe that any trans other than a Honda, would not be fairing as well. These Honda cars are amazing! This is my Lucas story! Anybody have a trans?</TD></TR></TABLE>


So you signed up to h-t just to tell us about Lucas oil? Wow.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK I am starting a new Lucas thread because I have just used the stuff for the first time and I am amazed by how good it is. Now in the previous 30 threads on this product people always bring up some Bobistheoilguy article. That article is completely innacurate. For one there is no heat like what an engine would create in his little gear mechanism, he puts in way too much Lucas to oil, and there isnt any pressure put on the oil. So of course it foams. Anyway I am using this stuff and love it. I have an OBD0 b16a and put in .5 quart in my engine with an oil change and the other .5 quart in my transmission when I had it serviced. My engine leak is gone, the engine idles and runs soo much smoother and it fires up instantly every morning. My transmission feels way smoother and still does the typical 3rd gear grind at high revs but it is far quieter. Anyway post your opinions on this product, and please no posts unless you use the stuff. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I only used the stuff once on my '95 Civic EX when I was about to swap in a B16 cause the D16 went on the fritz. The motor only got about 1000 miles on it before it locked up. I only used the stuff cause I knew my motor was about done. other than that I WOULD never reccomend that crap in a 4 banger that normally requires 5w30, this is just a horrible last resort "Bandaid" treatment, don't EVER use it in any other situation unless your ready to swap in a new motor. that's my 2 cents

 

Ok sounds shitty, but how much did you put in also? I am talking about 250-500mls of the stuff, thats all. Not a whole quart or anything. Just enough to make the oil a bit more sticky.

 

It's still "snake oil" whether you add a little or alot. It's just a matter of how fast you want to kill your motor. If your motor is leaking oil it is because your SEALS ARE BAD, meaning fix the damn seals, adding thicker oil does not "fix" the problem and magically renews your seals. Same thing as bypassing a blown fuse instead of FIXING it , yeah you may still have power but you will eventually burn something up. replace whatever seals are leaking or swap in a newer motor, this bandaid crap just sucks to even hear about.

He man, my head gasket blew. Think I can just weld the head to the block so it won't leak anymore????

...pretty much the same principle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djcharlee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just used Valvoline High Milage the heaviest they had 20w50 I think.</TD></TR></TABLE>

20w50!!!!....wow. That is quite heavy.

I use 5w-30 and my 230 xxx miles si runs great.

And the user booklet says that you should use 5-30 for low temp and 10-30 for high temp.

must be hard to heat up from a cold start no?

 

haha... i used 20w 50 before i swapped my motor out because it burned so much oil.. but the thick *** oil still didnt help the engine stop burning the stuff.

 

i used it on my DA on my last oil change .....yea it made my engine quiter
but F that i aint gonna ever put that in ma car again i dont want my engine to lock up

 

the reason why it fails its because it gets a lot of air bubbles in the oil, it does not have the same propeties as oil to keep air bubbles out of the motor. as far as i know oil lubricates better than air. there was an article around here a while ago, dont remeber what it was about exatly, just touched the subject

 

Ok thread/
This turned into exactly what I specified it NOT be in the first post. If you dont use the stuff, shut up. No theories and bullshit.

 

I used it in the last oil change (1qt lucas, 2.5qt MobilOne 5W30)

it killed my gas mileage, and more

I just changed back to full mobilOne, at least 3-5 mpg gain

I have some in the tranny to
I will have it back to full syn soon

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have some in the tranny to
I will have it back to full syn soon</TD></TR></TABLE>

synthetic in the tranny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok thread/
This turned into exactly what I specified it NOT be in the first post. If you dont use the stuff, shut up. No theories and bullshit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude, this pretty much IS what you asked for, opinions from those who have used it (w/ a few that have not) and feedback. This stuff sucks and it sounds like your just upset that nobody else backed up your opinion on this crap. It would be a great world where you can just pour in the magic juice whenever your motor wears out and needs a rebuild, but there ain't no such thing as "REBUILD IN A BOTTLE"!!! There is more than enough info here to explain why this crap is SOOO bad for your Honda, just suck it up, FIX YOUR DAMN OIL LEAKS THE RIGHT WAY and quit whining that this f-in snake oil aint F**kin MAGIC!!!!! it sucks dude but there anint no cure all for oil leaks. Go ask any master tech and they'll tell you the same. (as I am doing now, I too am a tech who has seen this crap too many times)

 

Man, chill.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecSyndrome &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Dude, this pretty much IS what you asked for, opinions from those who have used it (w/ a few that have not) and feedback. This stuff sucks and it sounds like your just upset that nobody else backed up your opinion on this crap. It would be a great world where you can just pour in the magic juice whenever your motor wears out and needs a rebuild, but there ain't no such thing as "REBUILD IN A BOTTLE"!!! There is more than enough info here to explain why this crap is SOOO bad for your Honda, just suck it up, FIX YOUR DAMN OIL LEAKS THE RIGHT WAY and quit whining that this f-in snake oil aint F**kin MAGIC!!!!! it sucks dude but there anint no cure all for oil leaks. Go ask any master tech and they'll tell you the same. (as I am doing now, I too am a tech who has seen this crap too many times)</TD></TR></TABLE>

werd.

 

No need to chill man, I'm not hating. I'm just telling you like it is, heed the info or don't. I am suprised nobody else has straight up burned you yet to be honest, good luck w/ not locking your motor up.

 

DAM LOCKING MOTORs UP YA 4 REAL?i have used lucas on all my civics and never had a problem...91 crx...91 ex...95ex...91 ls..91 prelude and nothing bad ever happen....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is my experience. I started using it in my 91 sedan at 130.xxx miles, 4 oil changes later, it locked up dead.
On teardown, come to find out, the crank and its bearings were all siezed and the journals were all plugged with filth, same in the head, all the oil passages were all clogged and filthy.

I WOULDN'T USE THAT **** AGAIN IF THEY PAID ME TO USE IT!!

...........................ever again..........................

But thats just me.

And I am a religous oil changer and I used it as directed.

Just use a quality synthetic.</TD></TR></TABLE> funny you would say this.. 2 me it sounds like u wer over do on a tune up cause if ur filter was working rite it would on trapt all the filth