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What is better?? Helms or Chilton Manuals??

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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I have a Chilton manual but have never heard of Helms before. Any preferences??

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Helms are more extensive I believe. I use a Helms manual.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Ok cool. I'll look into getting one. Do you have it on CD ROM or Book??
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Helm's is the best for how to fix things.
Chilton's is good for the operating theory of the car like emissions etc. Not enough pics or diagrams though.
Haynes is good for the pictures and has some good trouble shooting methods for the emissions.

I know 'cause I have all 3.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I’m Trying &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok cool. I'll look into getting one. Do you have it on CD ROM or Book??</TD></TR></TABLE>

get the book, unless you have a laptop
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Yeah I got a laptop, but I'll probably go book if I get one.

Cool, thanks for the heads up everyone!!
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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The online manual is good. Chilton is good as well
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Service manual that the dealership has, thats what i use
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r7t1g8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Service manual that the dealership has, thats what i use </TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is a helms, correct?

I heard helms makes the manuals that honda uses.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Helms manuals contain excellent technical information.

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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I can't believe I have seen people even speaking for a Chilton in here. Look at the Helms then the Chilton manual for the same car...the Chilton is a CHOPPED down but basically reprint of the Helm's. There is alot of info exempted from Chiltons and the reason being the Chilton covers 88-95 chassis in one book....there is a Helms specifically for a 1994 (or 92, or 95...whichever you prefer) Civic though.

So for a final word to any doubters here it is......

HELMS is the BEST if your quest is to repair or understand your Honda vehicle. The dealer uses Helms, not Chilton, and not Haynes. You can use a Chilton, but if you want the best and final word you'll get a Helms. You get what you pay for.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nicko360 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

get the book, unless you have a laptop </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a stupid way of thinking.

Even if you have it just installed on a desktop PC you can still see what torque specs are, or check the order in which they do something, or look how something is set up.

It's a great reference.

Not to mention it's also got a print feature... I say get the one for the computer.

Why? Because unlike your dumbass that paid 70 dollars or whatever the hell it was for it - for the computer it's....FREE.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I’m Trying &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok cool. I'll look into getting one. Do you have it on CD ROM or Book??</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have it in .pdf

Just google it dude, they're all over the web for free.

Somebody gave me a site that had like, an assload of Honda manuals downloadable for free, but I'm not sure if they want their name disclosed here .

Also, you can search ebay and get like the honda CD-Rom program that they use for $1.99.

Don't buy the book - absolute waste of money.

Oh, and btw, I wast talking about helms the whole time...forgot to mention that...
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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The only nice thing about having th electronic version versus the book is you can print out the pages you need, take them out with you, get them all greasy, dirty and ripped up, and you haven't destroyed your book.

Otherwise, I like the printed book. Not sure why, guess I'm just a nerd like that.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why? Because unlike your dumbass that paid 70 dollars or whatever the hell it was for it - for the computer it's....FREE.
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i would agree, get the .pdf file why???????????


because im the one who scanned all the thousands of pages of about 15 popular helms books for everyone to enjoy for free 2-3 years ago. so lets not make my efforts go to waste. so get it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and why did i?

i had a prototype book scanner and a friend at honda go lent me any books i needed.

and since nobody liked to share knowledge back then or take the time to scan these huge books, i decided i had the power to do so and took advantage of it.


all the manuals are on all the p2p networks if you can not find it hosted by any website.


and depending on why type of paper you print on. the grease will smear right off, and you can safe the paper for the next time you do that particular repair. very helpful when i did my transmission installed , reinstall and breakdown...

and yes i had them all hosted on these boards but i was uploading 4gigabites daily so i had them all take off and put on p2p networks.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i would agree, get the .pdf file why???????????


because im the one who scanned all the thousands of pages of about 15 popular helms books for everyone to enjoy for free 2-3 years ago. so lets not make my efforts go to waste. so get it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and why did i?

i had a prototype book scanner and a friend at honda go lent me any books i needed.

and since nobody liked to share knowledge back then or take the time to scan these huge books, i decided i had the power to do so and took advantage of it.


all the manuals are on all the p2p networks if you can not find it hosted by any website.


and depending on why type of paper you print on. the grease will smear right off, and you can safe the paper for the next time you do that particular repair. very helpful when i did my transmission installed , reinstall and breakdown...

and yes i had them all hosted on these boards but i was uploading 4gigabites daily so i had them all take off and put on p2p networks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not that I'm not thankful. I am.

But I'm not sure where in the hell you're going with this.

EDIT:
It sounds like you're trying to flame me or something but you're not making an actual argument.

I'm confused as ****.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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is the haynes the same as helms??? i just got a haynes, which is better out of those?
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anavrin351 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the haynes the same as helms??? i just got a haynes, which is better out of those?
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No, the haynes is a 14 dollar piece of **** that's good for cheap, fast, reference, like timing belt specs and such.

I have one, not a bad book, just not very detailed.

The helms is like 1200 pages and is detailed on every system in the car with detailed diagrams, wiring diagrams, pictures, and instructions. It's like 70 dollar or some stupid **** like that if you go out and buy it.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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thanks for the heads up. sux that i bought both versions of the haynes instead of the one helms though
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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syn's always has a chip on his shoulder, you do get the flamethrower at you by about 90% of your posts and comments... lol and no im not flaming you man, and even if i was, who cares??? theres more **** to worry about than someone flaming you dont you think? or maybe you want to be flamed inorder to post another comment to then raise your post count?

relax, you'll know if im flaming you or not

(note to me, never use quotes with syn's comments because it draws too much confusion.)

i was just agreeing with you that its FREE (hence why the word free was in bold in your comment) and <U>everyone should get the free version before they decide to buy the paper version.</U>

you need to get out of NY man and chill on the WESTSIDE

have a man
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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I have the Helms service manual and electronic troubleshoot for my car. Both are well worth their help and knowledge in gold. Get them.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the Helms service manual and electronic troubleshoot for my car. Both are well worth their help and knowledge in gold. Get them. </TD></TR></TABLE>


oh yea that reminds me on the 92-00 civic, and integra manuals i included the eletrical troubleshooting manual after the regular manual inside the .pdf

the eletrical troubleshooting goes alot more indepth into certain wiring and helps you determine what problems are.

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Civic and Acura Helms is whats in my laptop...and i love them...
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">syn's always has a chip on his shoulder, you do get the flamethrower at you by about 90% of your posts and comments... lol and no im not flaming you man, and even if i was, who cares??? theres more **** to worry about than someone flaming you dont you think? or maybe you want to be flamed inorder to post another comment to then raise your post count?

relax, you'll know if im flaming you or not

(note to me, never use quotes with syn's comments because it draws too much confusion.)

i was just agreeing with you that its FREE (hence why the word free was in bold in your comment) and <U>everyone should get the free version before they decide to buy the paper version.</U>

you need to get out of NY man and chill on the WESTSIDE

have a man
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Oh, yeah, I agree.

I wasn't trying to sound accusatory, I just couldn't understand what you were getting at, if you were agreeing or disagreeing.

No worries, I didn't mean anything by it.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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you can download at the log in screen at work or if you are in honda pact

if not google it
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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has anyone actually printed the whole helms manual for an eg? (all 1200 pages of it?)
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