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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Just a quick question, but how many of you are running hood pins on the OEM metal SiR EF8/EF9 hood? Just picked one up and I'm contemplating installing some sparco ones because I hear the EF8/EF9 hoods flap at high speeds (coupled with 18+ year old hood latch doesn't sound too good).

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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I definatly recommend putting them in, I was doing just over 100mph and my hood flew open smashed the windshield and destroied the hood, fenders and creased the roof!! I will post pics soon!
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Is this for legal track racing intent or illegal shouldn't be doing 100+ mph speeds. If for track racing then go for it for the reasons already stated. If for illegal activities, then just don't go that fast and then no worries.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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lol, I plan to take my car to the track once I get everything done. Buttonwillow that is (closest track to my school). Hood pins it is . Anyone have pics of hood pins on EF8/EF9 hoods?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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if you adjust it right it shouldn't be a problem. The problem is a bunch of people that shouldn't be adjusting hoods install them and then they can't figure out why it opened.

No offense to anyone's mechanic skills
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by njn63 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you adjust it right it shouldn't be a problem. The problem is a bunch of people that shouldn't be adjusting hoods install them and then they can't figure out why it opened.

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Well said
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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you try adjusting the hood withut the correct radiator support. the one they send is not the correct one nither will the stocker work with out modification!!
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by njn63 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you adjust it right it shouldn't be a problem. The problem is a bunch of people that shouldn't be adjusting hoods install them and then they can't figure out why it opened.

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My CF hood popped open twice before I got the pins. I was tired of guessing whether it was lined up properly. It's not one of those things where I like to chance my abilities, or lack thereof.

On a metal hood, I don't think there should be a problem.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebigone05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you try adjusting the hood withut the correct radiator support. the one they send is not the correct one nither will the stocker work with out modification!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Get the EF7 support (aka the proper support for the front end conversion). Everything will line up fine.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PACT man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this for legal track racing intent or illegal shouldn't be doing 100+ mph speeds. If for track racing then go for it for the reasons already stated. If for illegal activities, then just don't go that fast and then no worries.</TD></TR></TABLE> Because you've never topped out your car on the turnpike heading north
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Better safe than sorry!!
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Because you've never topped out your car on the turnpike heading north </TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL, yea all 70hp of it in 4th gear. Although I went to the new dragstrip on 27 today, nice legal racing there(didn't race mine of course).
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PACT man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LOL, yea all 70hp of it in 4th gear. Although I went to the new dragstrip on 27 today, nice legal racing there(didn't race mine of course).</TD></TR></TABLE> Not of fan of the strip on 27, I'd rather still go to Moroso for a couple of reasons.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone have pics of hood pins on EF8/EF9 hoods? </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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better safe than sorry. i had my hood get crunched so did chase in alabama
metal ones too. i'm sure we both thought we had it lined up properly
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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With OEM hoods i dont see how its possible for this to happen, so by all means enlighten me. There is even a safety latch that has to be released before the hood can be fully opened. So are some of u guys saying the actual hood latch bolts pull their threads out of the hood itself?

Ive owned 2 CF hoods for the EF9, 1 ViS and 1 Fiber Images. Never had an issue with them staying down at high speeds (100+).

Also, im using the correct T support from an EF1, but honestly even with the OEM one shimmed, this shouldnt be a problem.

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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some people have had the cf rip off from under the hood, from what ive heard. but i dont see how the latch could fail due to air rushing under the hood. forcing the hood open, must be a bad install.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 408wdy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some people have had the cf rip off from under the hood, from what ive heard. but i dont see how the latch could fail due to air rushing under the hood. forcing the hood open, must be a bad install.</TD></TR></TABLE>

More specifically, there have been issues with the 2 layers (top lay and the under webbing) separating on CF hoods. That is why it's always recommended to run hood pins on them.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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njn63 you said you don't need them I see you like to contradict yourself!!

Just install the hood pins and save yourself from having to replace a $300 hood!!
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebigone05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">njn63 you said you don't need them I see you like to contradict yourself!!

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My original post was to the OP who was talking about using an OEM sheet metal hood. Those don't need hood pins considering they were factory and have gone 20 years without needing them.

The last post was in reference to carbon fiber hoods which are aftermarket and not made to the standard of OEM Honda. The funny part is the failure i referred to had nothing to do with the hoodlatch.

Next time maybe read the entire post? And i think your exclamation point key is sticking.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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thats really funny cause the CF hoods are made to be used wioth stock crossbar the oem metal hoods need to be altered to fit correctly!!

The whole key board is f'd
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Never had a problem with the OEM EF9 hood. Also never had a problem with My ViS either. Always took the time to ensure the hood was lined up properly and latched correctly when released. Hood pins are recommended for carbon regardless....But, I never did...guess you can say I am lucky..plenty of 100+mph situations at track days.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebigone05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats really funny cause the CF hoods are made to be used wioth stock crossbar the oem metal hoods need to be altered to fit correctly!!

The whole key board is f'd</TD></TR></TABLE>

The only ones that need to be altered are the ones that people have using the wrong crossmember.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1700836

If you use the EF8 crossmember with a CF hood it won't latch either.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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EF8 crossbar is jdm not usdm note my earlier post where I said OEM(meaning usdm OEM). And why would you spend an extra $75 on an ef3/6/7 crossbar whe you spend $15 on some hood pins??
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebigone05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EF8 crossbar is jdm not usdm note my earlier post where I said OEM(meaning usdm OEM).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because it's JDM doesn't make it aftermarket. It's still OEM (which stands for Originial Equipment Manufacturer).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And why would you spend an extra $75 on an ef3/6/7 crossbar whe you spend $15 on some hood pins??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because some of us aren't ricers and want to do things right? You're putting on a front end conversion that costs easily a grand and you're worrying about a $75 crossmember?
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