i am confused on rev matching and whether its beneficial or not. Ive heard from one of my friends that rev matching while down shifting really helps you slow down for tight turns and is good for your clutch...but ive also heard that its pointless and is a waste of gas. Are either of them right?

oh and also...is it necessary to upgrade to a racing clutch when going turbo?

Thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kellogg97ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am confused on rev matching and whether its beneficial or not. Ive heard from one of my friends that rev matching while down shifting really helps you slow down for tight turns and is good for your clutch...but ive also heard that its pointless and is a waste of gas. Are either of them right?

oh and also...is it necessary to upgrade to a racing clutch when going turbo?

Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

wha?

When you come around a turn, you need to slow down, if you don't revmatch and down shift, you'll be at like 3k rpm around the turn and wont be able to come out strong...

Or are you comparing rev matching to simply downshifting and letting the clutch out?

 

One of them is right.

You will need a better clutch for turbo.

Rev matching helps before entering a turn while downshifting because is doesn't upset the balance of the car. Double clutching is not necessary with the Integra transmission.

 

Right im asking which is more beneficial... tapping the gas to match the revs with the down shifted gear...or just let the clutch out and let the revs go up by themselves. The car slows down more smoothly when i rev match so im guessing this is the right thing to do?

 

yeah, i feel like its bad when the rpms shoot up like that without rev matching.

it might not be, but it also kinda jolts the car around and that could be a bad thing in a tight turn.

 

It's also not good for your transmission to let the RPM's shoot up out of nowhere when downshifting. Me for instance when playing around like on the interstate I will downshift to 3rd gear at abou 70mph and rev it up to about 7500rpm's and I am usually closer if not a little to high for the rev of that gear/speed.
I hope this helps

 

yes it does thanks for the replies.

so rev match every single time i downshift? except when i have to brake obviously because it would defeat the purpose of helping me slow down if i took my foot off the brake to tap the gas

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kellogg97ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes it does thanks for the replies.

so rev match every single time i downshift? except when i have to brake obviously because it would defeat the purpose of helping me slow down if i took my foot off the brake to tap the gas</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heel-toe. The bottom line is that you do not want to upset the balance of the car when you release the clutch.

 

learn how to HEEL-TOE DOWNSHIFT!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sixfiveoh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, i feel like its bad when the rpms shoot up like that without rev matching.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree.

 

Racing or daily driving! Rev matching is better for the tranny and the clutch and will make the shifts much smoother. I have been trying to teach my g/f how to drive a standard and she is slowly learning how to rev match to make her down shifts smoother. And boosting is def. gonna need a better clutch.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heel-toe. The bottom line is that you do not want to upset the balance of the car when you release the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Indeed. it's important to learn to downshift and rev match while braking. Heel-toe. Learn it.

 

for normal driving i don't rev match. But, i don't just dump the clutch when downshifting either, i let it out slower to keep it smoother. for hard driving it'd just make sense to rev match though imo.

 

but by letting it it slower arent u still making it grab harder then what is necessary? you rev match and it grabs at the RPM which is it going to goto anyway which should be easier on the clutch and tranny...

 

I always rev-match when I am come'n up to a turn or even a red-light. The car seems to slow down alot faster but is still easy to get right back into the gas if need be. IMO its alot smoother transition going into a lower gear because the car tends to not "jump" where as if you just slow down and shift normal into a lower gear the car can tend to have that jump'n feeling to it. Plus its just c00L IMO haha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by da_33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but by letting it it slower arent u still making it grab harder then what is necessary? you rev match and it grabs at the RPM which is it going to goto anyway which should be easier on the clutch and tranny...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, but when i'm driving normal i'm not revving high enough to make it matter all that much..

 

just get in the habit of always rev matching when you down shift... its second nature to me now and I don't even think about it when I do it. just practice it until its second nature and you won't ever even have to think about doing it, you just will

 

You should go watch some Japenese Race Movies up the moutains in Skylines. You see how they do it.

 

most of the bmi videos on youtube have good footage of rev matching.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hindsonher &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should go watch some Japenese Race Movies up the moutains in Skylines. You see how they do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hhhahahaha.. "Japenese Race Movies".... ahhahhaha.. so... what's that word?....

 

anybody find the heel toe technique harder to do then on integras than on other hondas: egs, del sols, crxs? any tips to make it easier?

 

Different pedals help.

 

i keep trying to heel toe but my knee always hits the steering column.

this is with it all the way up and im only 5'9"

 

ALWAYS revmatch when downshifting, even if you are driving 20 mph in a parking lot. Don't waste your gas, clutch, and synchros on downshifting at red lights to slow down though... which would you rather replace, brake pads or clutch and/or synchros?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatch_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ALWAYS revmatch when downshifting, even if you are driving 20 mph in a parking lot. Don't waste your gas, clutch, and synchros on downshifting at red lights to slow down though... which would you rather replace, brake pads or clutch and/or synchros?</TD></TR></TABLE>