i have a 94 honda civic with b18c type r, im debating whether or not i should spend the money to turbo it. im not that knowledgeable about cars period could someone please inform me on how much $ im looking at to fully build the engine for the turbo, and also which turbo to look at, im on about a budget of about 4-5 grand right now. i ran a 14.1 quarter mile at the track and hope to get the car running high 12's before summer ends is this a reasonable goal on this kind of budget and around how much will this turbo increase my time.

 

Well you first wanna go with low compression pistons. Get some rods as well. Then get dsm 450's and a evolution fuel pump. If your car is obd1 then you can just chip your ecu and buy a burner. As for turbos and manifolds, stay away from ebay ching chang crap. Or you can just go the idiot way and buy a greddy kit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by imburne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well you first wanna go with low compression pistons. Get some rods as well. Then get dsm 450's and a evolution fuel pump. If your car is obd1 then you can just chip your ecu and buy a burner. As for turbos and manifolds, stay away from ebay ching chang crap. Or you can just go the idiot way and buy a greddy kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you dont know what your taking then dont talk...
every thing you just listed is for single slammer ****.

OP: if you dont know alot about cars i would not turbo your typeR. if you do... dont go the cheap way out with tuning. bad tuning=blown motor.

 

boosting a Type R!? that's blasphemy!

 

i dont think you could build the motor and turbo it at that cost without doing all the work yourself. you could turbo it , or build it on that budget , but not both

 

how much money would it be then

 

heres some pics of the car if anyone cares, http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2447742
well i do not know alot about cars but i dont see what that should stop me from trying to fix it up. i dont plan on installing anything my self but i wanted to get a idea of what i was looking at b4 going to any car performance shops

 

I will never understand why people get a b18c5 and decide to boost it. To me its just a complete waste why rune one of the best engines that Honda made? If you do want to boost it try reading up in the forced induction form. I went turbo and decided it was not for me and am saving for a b18c5 now but to each his own.

 

several people have told me the same thing, that i would be taking away the hole purpose of a type r by dropping the compression, then what would u recommend doing to it

 

oh and if you are not that mechanically inclined turbo may not be the best thing for you seeing how it is more maintenance but if you have the money to maintain the car then its not a big deal if some thing is to go wrong.

 

well what is done to it right now?

 

if the engine is stock i would build the head. Cams cam gears full valve train and a good tune. What is the main purpose of this car?

 

i dont know how much it would cost total, i mean, it all depends on what exactly you want to do with it. but just saying from an engine build and installing turbo at a shop is gonna run you about half your current budget, at least.

 

Go N/a, and lose the body kit. It's what gets all the southern girls.

 

If you're gonna go boost, you're gonna need to lower the compression with a bunch of crap, and get a new a tranny as you won't like being boosted with the ITR tranny. Everything just flies by too fast not really gettin' the full gain of the boost. I'd say with a custom turbo kit thats a T4 it'll run you 5-6k depending on who builds it, who tunes it and how much is tuning.
If you wanna boost I'd say let go of the ITR motor and pick up and LS/GSR and boost it.

If you go the NA route, it's simple IMO. New valvesprings, retainers, cams, cam gears depending on what kind, i.e. JUN, you'd be making 200+ whp. (Requires tuning, too.)
Going from a pretty much stock ITR motor to one making 200ish whp will satisfy you for a little while. If anything you can still port and polish, sleeve and bore it out

 

^^^
are you speaking from experience?

 

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are you speaking from experience?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm speaking from many many threads about it on this forum and I kinda went through it by considering it and researching it myself. Not only through HT but through local mechanics and shops. There's alot of stuff about FI vs. NA in the ITR forum. Search up turbo stuff on there. Lots of info. I know I only skimmed the surface on it though, so if anyone can chime in and correct me. It'd be great

 

ive known of high compression turbos...they boosted fine. its all bout the tuning man.

 

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Yeah but, usually when people boost. They aren't satisfied after 4-5 months sometimes even SHORTER, they get excited with the boost controller and tend to push it to the edge little by little. Thus blowin' the motor. I do agree that tuning plays a HUGE if not the BIGGEST role in a turbo set up. But its the DRIVER that worries me. And lowering the compression would be better if he was gonna keep pushin' it, it'd last a lil' longer.

 

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Yeah but, usually when people boost. They aren't satisfied after 4-5 months sometimes even SHORTER, they get excited with the boost controller and tend to push it to the edge little by little. Thus blowin' the motor. I do agree that tuning plays a HUGE if not the BIGGEST role in a turbo set up. But its the DRIVER that worries me. And lowering the compression would be better if he was gonna keep pushin' it, it'd last a lil' longer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats with any motor...if you boost a gsr on 12 lbs it can blow up if untuned. if its tuned right it can last forever. and with the boost controller its all bout self control. if you turn up the boost without tuning your just asking for it

 

The thing is on a high compression motor like a C5, it's more susceptible to blowing. I'm not saying its impossible, theres a couple of ITR's turbo'd and running smooth as ****. But it costed them alot of cash to do so. And yeah I know an untuned turbo can blow, but a tuned one can still blow due to driver error. Also, even if its tuned right, without built internals the motor would weaken faster. I wouldn't run a boosted stock C5 for too long, it'd last a while I'd say 6-10 months just fine until stuff starts weakening.

 

For more info PM Doostur on the ITR forum. He has all the knowledge about it as he is going to boost it soon.

To the OP: Good luck with the build.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ViSioNxBoY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The thing is on a high compression motor like a C5, it's more susceptible to blowing. I'm not saying its impossible, theres a couple of ITR's turbo'd and running smooth as ****. But it costed them alot of cash to do so. And yeah I know an untuned turbo can blow, but a tuned one can still blow due to driver error. Also, even if its tuned right, without built internals the motor would weaken faster. I wouldn't run a boosted stock C5 for too long, it'd last a while I'd say 6-10 months just fine until stuff starts weakening.</TD></TR></TABLE>

tuned on 5-6 lbs will run forever is what im sayying. not anything crazy. im not sayying its impossible

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbociviccoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tuned on 5-6 lbs will run forever is what im sayying. not anything crazy. im not sayying its impossible</TD></TR></TABLE>

/thread. I don't think the OP needs anymore info.

 

all the kits I've looked recommend only 5-8 psi anyways, but that's just on stock internals. It's like was said, it all depends on the tune. I'm still debating on boosing my C5 also but Ill more than likely go with a custom build like I did on my B16B, just taking a while cause I wanted to go all motor which is why I swapped to the C5, just cost more money all motor.

OP: If you want a general idea on cost for all motor build go to my garage here http://racingsouthwest.com/for...=1708 and add up the prices for all engine and tranny components, then keep in mind that 1. that price doesn't cover installation as most of this was done myself or through friends, and 2. this is just one build, you can go with other brands of parts.