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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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one of my tires got a nail and its unrepairable. is it bad to have a brand new tire in the back paired with a tire with 50% thread life?

will it cause alignment problems etc?
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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THE CARE WILL TEND TO FEEL SQUIRRLY AROUND TURNS DUE TO UNEVEN TRACTION PROPERTIES OF THE TIRES.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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depends on how you drive??? even thou it is a front wheel drive you still have to have good tires in the rear of the car for traction as well.. if your tires in the fron are fairly new then i would put the new one in the rear.. if you have one good tire in the front and one okay tire in the front then i would move the okay tire in the rear and leave the new one's in the front or vice versa.. it is not going to hurt your car either way
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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It's not a big deal either way.

I like to keep the tires with more tread on the front of a FWD car, where the tires wear faster. That evens out the wear, so they all wear out at the same time.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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1 2 front
3 4 back

the new tire is on number 3.
tire 3 is new and the rest probably have like 60% thread left. should i just leave it as is?
nsxtasy i went discountamericatire to get a pair of tires and they said the new ones should be in the back.(different car)
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TOO MUCH TORQUE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i went discountamericatire to get a pair of tires and they said the new ones should be in the back.(different car)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Tire dealers (including the Tire Rack) often recommend that newer tires be put in the back, in order to prevent oversteer. However, that will maximize the difference in treadwear, making the front tires wear out well before the rear tires do. I don't like it for that reason, because I prefer replacing my tires as a set of four, not two at a time. And if your other tires are all at 60 percent, you don't have to worry about oversteer; it's not that much of a difference in tread depth. Again, I would put the new one on the front. But those are the pluses and minuses; it's your choice.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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at 60% or more it doesn't matter where the tires are at that point.. front or back. i prefer them on the back but that is my choice..
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tire dealers (including the Tire Rack) often recommend that newer tires be put in the back, in order to prevent oversteer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

They recommend the new tires being on the back because if a tire was to blow, they would have more control of the vehicle if it were on the front than the back. If a customer insists on only replacing two tires, even on a fwd vehicle, it is recommended that they go to the back and the best remaining two are to be on the front.

Safety &gt; tire life/BIG insurance claims.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They recommend the new tires being on the back because if a tire was to blow, they would have more control of the vehicle if it were on the front than the back.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong. The reason is as I stated, to avoid oversteer.

Read the reason for yourself, on the Tire Rack website.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Anyone can be an internet genuis, <U>anyone.</U> But I guess if "Tire Rack" says so, then it must be right huh?? Not to put my self on a pedistool, but there has been numerous times where i have contacted Tire Rack for pricing on some tires for my customers and I could tell them more about the tire that they sell than they could. But what does first hand experience mean anyway? Obviously nothing when all you hafta do is punch a few keys on a keyboard.

Maybe I should say this. Tire Rack can reccommend this for however they worded it. But when it comes down to it, I think they are more concerned with avoiding a several million dollar law suit than a customer complaining of the way his tires handle. I'm sure nsx whatever will have a come back though, he's the tire god on here isn't he??

Whatever, none of this really matters anyways.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Michelin did a study on this and recommended that all new tires be put on the rear of vehicle no matter what condition the other tires are.. And there reason was that when you take a turn on a wet surface too fast that the rear end would slide out with the bad tire on it.. And with the best tires on the rear of the vehicle the rear did not slide out.. the test was done on two ford Taurus same year make and model.. the video was kind of a eye opener per say
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not a big deal either way.

I like to keep the tires with more tread on the front of a FWD car, where the tires wear faster. That evens out the wear, so they all wear out at the same time.
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Even though you are the tire guru, I've heard its better to have the tires with more tread in the rear for better traction.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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I wouldn't call him a tire guru, but meh....
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone can be an internet genuis, <U>anyone.</U> But I guess if "Tire Rack" says so, then it must be right huh??</TD></TR></TABLE>

YOU made a claim about why THEY were saying so. YOU WERE WRONG.

Anyone can be an internet genius, but it takes a special kind of fool to say something on the internet that is so easy to disprove. And an even bigger fool to then go off on a rant to try to distract people from the fact that he was wrong. The biggest fool of all is someone who was wrong, and everyone can see that he was wrong, but he refuses to admit it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-Money &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard its better to have the tires with more tread in the rear for better traction.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are some reasons why it's better to put them in the front, and others why it's better to put them in the rear. I outlined them above. You can look at them and then decide to put your own tires wherever you want.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Someone has something to prove on here lol!
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TOO MUCH TORQUE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one of my tires got a nail and its unrepairable. is it bad to have a brand new tire in the back paired with a tire with 50% thread life?

will it cause alignment problems etc?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The premise of the query is a losing proposition. There is no ideal answer. Wherever you put the new tyre in this set of circumstances will involve compromises to the car's handling.

It's not a tragedy, but there is no ideal answer if you're replacing only one tyre and the others are at 50%.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YOU made a claim about why THEY were saying so. YOU WERE WRONG.

Anyone can be an internet genius, but it takes a special kind of fool to say something on the internet that is so easy to disprove. And an even bigger fool to then go off on a rant to try to distract people from the fact that he was wrong. The biggest fool of all is someone who was wrong, and everyone can see that he was wrong, but he refuses to admit it.

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No reason to get all worked out about it. If it were me, I usually replace in pairs and rotate the tires to the back but like stated by others its not a huge deal.

Julian
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