J`S Racing Fit Type GT
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its usually in december...
its usually in december...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why are they covering the wing on the main one an not on the other one?...looks very good tho
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top secret design that they don't want to share with the rest of the world
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top secret design that they don't want to share with the rest of the world
That ITB setup is sexual.
320hp NA??? WTF?!
Id love to see some details about that in English. I'm sure Super Street will have a feature on that car in the near future. Seems right up their alley in terms of content.
I've seen track footage on these cars. They're fast on the straights, but don't do well on curves. They're still trying to develope a good suspension for them but its not too easy
this isn't the J's racing car, but as you can see, the driver is really struggling to get the cars around the corners. On the straights, it does well. The footage I saw of the Spoon and J's Fits are similar. The do have some potential, but not quite the road huggers that the Civics and Integras are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lo_9gMs9Ks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lo_9gMs9Ks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this isn't the J's racing car, but as you can see, the driver is really struggling to get the cars around the corners. On the straights, it does well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i would be stuggling to get around a corner too with street tires if i was in a video called "Honda Fit Racing" and it looks like a complete stock fit,,
lol
straights it does well?.. hmmm.. confused
i would be stuggling to get around a corner too with street tires if i was in a video called "Honda Fit Racing" and it looks like a complete stock fit,,
lol
straights it does well?.. hmmm.. confused
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This is the first I've heard of any disparaging remarks regarding the suspension or handling of the Fit. Also, I'm unable to read the specification sheet in the photo to determine the car's particular setup, but it certainly doesn't look like the stock suspension to me.
</TD></TR></TABLE>This is the first I've heard of any disparaging remarks regarding the suspension or handling of the Fit. Also, I'm unable to read the specification sheet in the photo to determine the car's particular setup, but it certainly doesn't look like the stock suspension to me.
They've replaced the dampers, damper base, and springs, but the base is the same Fit suspension. The whole thing really needs to be replaced because it wasn't really design for track use.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying that these cars will will never be good for the track. The Honda City Turbo was never meant to be a race car either but they had a whole series based on that car and those cars can be made to run pretty fast even by today standards (13 sec quarter miles) without even swapping the engine.
I'm just saying that the Fit still has a ways to go.
Modified by MiraiZ at 12:38 PM 2/18/2007
EDIT: Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying that these cars will will never be good for the track. The Honda City Turbo was never meant to be a race car either but they had a whole series based on that car and those cars can be made to run pretty fast even by today standards (13 sec quarter miles) without even swapping the engine.
I'm just saying that the Fit still has a ways to go.
Modified by MiraiZ at 12:38 PM 2/18/2007
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That much is certainly true. However, from what I've seen and read (including comments from Ichishima himself) regarding Spoon's Fit, it's an extremely capable track car. In fact, when interviewed regarding the Fit, the only real deficiency that Ichishima noted was the car's overall lack of power.
That much is certainly true. However, from what I've seen and read (including comments from Ichishima himself) regarding Spoon's Fit, it's an extremely capable track car. In fact, when interviewed regarding the Fit, the only real deficiency that Ichishima noted was the car's overall lack of power.
I think you are refering to this video. The two testers are Naoki Hattori and Keiichi Tsuchiya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oik6wsmUBE
Spoon concentrated mostly on body rigidity and stiffiening, and they do have a better suspention than the J's design. This particular video has really poorly translated subtitles and the English commentary isn't any better.
Comments made by both drivers are that the car severely lacked power, but in this configuration handled very well. Also, if you modified the Fit this much it, it does become a nice track car, but in all practicallity, who can afford to modify a car this exstensively? How much did it cost to modify this car anyways? Also, Tsuchiya commented that its only after the car has been modified to this level that I would consider it a sports car (maybe). The average Fit could never be brought up to this level. Hattori agreed.
Comment from the Spoon director was that you cannot really put a price on a dream (which implied that it costed a hell of a lot of money.) The body was reenforced on key points of the chassis to increase regidity, and although the average driver would not be able to afford this kind of upgrade, we expect honda to come out with sports cars based on this type of chassis in the future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oik6wsmUBE
Spoon concentrated mostly on body rigidity and stiffiening, and they do have a better suspention than the J's design. This particular video has really poorly translated subtitles and the English commentary isn't any better.
Comments made by both drivers are that the car severely lacked power, but in this configuration handled very well. Also, if you modified the Fit this much it, it does become a nice track car, but in all practicallity, who can afford to modify a car this exstensively? How much did it cost to modify this car anyways? Also, Tsuchiya commented that its only after the car has been modified to this level that I would consider it a sports car (maybe). The average Fit could never be brought up to this level. Hattori agreed.
Comment from the Spoon director was that you cannot really put a price on a dream (which implied that it costed a hell of a lot of money.) The body was reenforced on key points of the chassis to increase regidity, and although the average driver would not be able to afford this kind of upgrade, we expect honda to come out with sports cars based on this type of chassis in the future.
The Spoon car was undoubtedly quite expensive to build. What the cost would be for the suspension upgrades alone, I'm not sure. Either way, I think the Fit is quite impressive for what it is. As you said, it wasn't designed to be a track car (or even a sports car), but it is still extremely capable and has quite a bit of potential.
Guys, these videos you're watching are REALLY old (years old). There's been a lot of progress made on Fit tuning since those came out. The recent general consensus on it is the opposite of what you're saying -- the Fit will win in the corners, but lose in the straights due to lack of power. There have been a number of more recent vids put out by the driver in the first clip (Ichiro-san of NOBLESSE) that show the Fit doing quite well against the likes of NSX-R's Porsches, Silvias, etc. (still getting killed in the straights of course), and that's with a fairly stock Fit (relatively) suspension-wise (j's coilover kit, roll center adjusters, etc.).
Here's the most recent clips of the latest evolution of the car in the first clip:
http://f.flvmaker.com/mc.php?i...Z_ti6
http://f.flvmaker.com/mc.php?i...z_ti6
http://f.flvmaker.com/mc.php?i...6_ti6
To be honest, SPOON has done very little with the Fit ever since that first car, with few if any really new parts being developed for it and released. Right now, J's and Noblesse are the main Fit promoters I'd say, and Ichiro-san of Noblesse is particularly notable in that he seems to central to a fairly large community of Fit racing fans and tuners. Here's a pic of the car from the clips above and an advert for an upcoming event this March. These are the guys where it's all happening with at the moment.
Here's the most recent clips of the latest evolution of the car in the first clip:
http://f.flvmaker.com/mc.php?i...Z_ti6
http://f.flvmaker.com/mc.php?i...z_ti6
http://f.flvmaker.com/mc.php?i...6_ti6
To be honest, SPOON has done very little with the Fit ever since that first car, with few if any really new parts being developed for it and released. Right now, J's and Noblesse are the main Fit promoters I'd say, and Ichiro-san of Noblesse is particularly notable in that he seems to central to a fairly large community of Fit racing fans and tuners. Here's a pic of the car from the clips above and an advert for an upcoming event this March. These are the guys where it's all happening with at the moment.

























