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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Hey everyone,

I actually own an Acura 3.0 CL but its pretty much a 97 accord with a 98 accord v6 engine. Anyways, I was planning to do the same thing that -RedneckDave- did and swap in a 3.2CL-S engine into my car, since my transmission is dying, and i dont really think that it would be worth it to just put in another auto tranny...since that would just die on me again...so i went to my mechanic and asked him about it and he said after i got the parts it would be about 1k labor and then he asked me why i dont just swap an h22 into my car...and i was befuddled, anyways i was just wondering if anyone with a 98 accord v6 has tried to put in an h22, in their car...how hard would you guys think that would be or should i just stick to the 3.2 cl-s engine?


I was also wondering where do you guys get your engines and parts? like i tried ebay and craigslist but there isnt really that much there


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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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You could always use the 6-speed manual trans that was available in the CL-S.

Swapping to an H22 is possible, but you're going to spend a lot more on parts and labor becuase all the accessories are on the opposite sides the engine bay and routed differently. You'd also need to buy different mounts and possibly subframe.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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v6 vs v4 which one would you choose? if you got bread then go ahead do what ever you want. i wouldnt put a h22 in the cl i rather put an cl-s just because my car is an ''cl'' and it a v6. it a easy drop.
right now i own a 98 cl 4 cyl. *if i had a v6 i wouldnt wanna downgrade, which is what your doing*
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nViDia-ForCeZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">v6 vs v4 which one would you choose? if you got bread then go ahead do what ever you want. i wouldnt put a h22 in the cl i rather put an cl-s just because my car is an ''cl'' and it a v6. it a easy drop.
right now i own a 98 cl 4 cyl. *if i had a v6 i wouldnt wanna downgrade, which is what your doing* </TD></TR></TABLE>

V4? You obvious don't know what your talking about.

First of all, you need to realise that honda uses I4. And for everyone in this thread you CANNOT, repeat, CANNOT swap a V6 where an I4 was, and vice versa. Your mechanic doesn't know what he is talking about and you shouldn't allow him to swap the engine if he doesn't know that an H22 cannot replace the V6. The front frame, mount location and bascially everything else firewall forward isn't designed for the H series or ANY I4. And you cannot use the H series tranny either.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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the first h22 swapped 6th gen accord I ever saw, started life as a v6. so YES it can be done. ****, it might have even been on this board. maybe over on v6p back when it was av6.com or whatever. it's been a while now. I'll take a look for it.

based on where you are starting from, the cls swap would be less labor so I'm not sure how your mechanic thinks it would be cheaper to do the h22. h22 would coust less to buy than the j32 but thats it. Either way, I'd get it in writing before he starts, otherwise you might get eaten alive on cost overruns.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And for everyone in this thread you CANNOT, repeat, CANNOT swap a V6 where an I4 was, and vice versa.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You might want to be careful when you tell someone they don't know what they're talking about. Like jweller said, V6 to I4, I4 to V6... it's already been done. Quite a few times, actually. So I guess it's possible after all, huh?
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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i ment to say i4 x_X forgot to correct that i do knwo what am saying just mistaken no need to flame man. look at the time if you can tell it in the afternoon, i had to type fast and accidently place a "v" in front of the 4 and if you think i am lying you can suck it up.. matter fact you can to swap a i4. you never seen it done befor? if not your dumb for posten in here too.

here a example.... why you have honda accord with different trims like there is an lx - se which are all i4 and some ex has i4 and v6 (i think) but i know for a that accord put v6 in too which mean they use same body but just different motor with additional feature to it which make the trims higher.
like i said man dont flame me when you got your information mess up
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nViDia-ForCeZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i ment to say i4 x_X forgot to correct that i do knwo what am saying just mistaken no need to flame man. look at the time if you can tell it in the afternoon, i had to type fast and accidently place a "v" in front of the 4 and if you think i am lying you can suck it up.. matter fact you can to swap a i4. you never seen it done befor? if not your dumb for posten in here too.

here a example.... why you have honda accord with different trims like there is an lx - se which are all i4 and some ex has i4 and v6 (i think) but i know for a that accord put v6 in too which mean they use same body but just different motor with additional feature to it which make the trims higher.
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you don't know anything.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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why not? you wanna downgrade? or do you just want to argue again?
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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no i agree that he'd downgrade with the h22 because the cars bigger than the 5th gen.

but its an I not a V.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sony224422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but its an I not a V. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually its a L.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sony224422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no i agree that he'd downgrade with the h22 because the cars bigger than the 5th gen.

but its an I not a V. </TD></TR></TABLE>

car size dont matter.... am talking about the engine dude.. **** stop quoteing me wtf? if you have a damn v6 would you wanna downgrade? ANSWER THat and if it is a YES i want to knoW why? and if it a no then leave it, i dont wanna hear anything from you. i think it just dumb if you have a v6 engine and then later on downgrade. if so why not just buy a damn 2.3/2.2 CL with 4 cycl? i wouldnt mind saying get a h22. dude your quoteing me on stupid stuff that make me argue with you which is causing us to argue. so drop it and live on with your life and stop prettending everything has to be perfect. you said am a e-thug wtf you didnt even give me a reason why am a e-thug. you didnt prove to me what oil cant go over 3k. i didnt even wanna bother argueing with you now you wanna start **** with me again? wtf you have no life or somthing man?

and he is not downgradeing becuz of the car size moron. it the engine. and where the hell i said V? i did correct myself due to it was a mistype which i was at school and didnt have time to correct it. liek i said i had correct myself but your dumb self has to correct me again? dude your plan stupid shut the expletive up talking to me aiight? like i said you dont wanna argue with me dont fucken quote me period. nothing is hard... if it hard then kill yourself you dont need to live. make my life easier. for you


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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sony224422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no i agree that he'd downgrade with the h22 because the cars bigger than the 5th gen.

but its an I not a V. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you say i dont know ****... look at this noob.

hodna accord 2d coupe ex:
Length: 185.6 in. Width: 70.1 in.
Height: 54.7 in. Wheel Base: 106.9 in.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/19....html

acura 3.0 cl:
Length: 190 in. Width: 70.1 in.
Height: 54.7 in. Wheel Base: 106.9 in.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/19....html

provide you with link to. acura cl is only 5 inch longer in lenght that it everything is the same i wouldnt consider that "bigger" then the accord.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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It is 300 pounds heavier, is what he was referring to.........

I dont think you need to continue stacking on your posts to continue something, just drop it
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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whoa, sorry to make you guys argue guys. Anyways, from what I've read in other forums is that the F22/F23&lt;J30&lt;H22&lt;J32. So, I thought that going to an 4cyl would be better? plus it has better gas mileage anyways im not going to do anything big until i get the money, and once i iron out the details, im either going to drop in a J32 or H22. whichever is cheaper. Anyways, my tranny has been starting to die which is why ive been asking this question Plus, the j32 parts are hard to find, whereas the H22 parts are like armslength away but anyways this isnt going to be anything short term for me. Thanks for all the input everyone.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nViDia-ForCeZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

car size dont matter.... am talking about the engine dude.. **** stop quoteing me wtf? if you have a damn v6 would you wanna downgrade? ANSWER THat and if it is a YES i want to knoW why? and if it a no then leave it, i dont wanna hear anything from you. i think it just dumb if you have a v6 engine and then later on downgrade. if so why not just buy a damn 2.3/2.2 CL with 4 cycl? i wouldnt mind saying get a h22. dude your quoteing me on stupid stuff that make me argue with you which is causing us to argue. so drop it and live on with your life and stop prettending everything has to be perfect. you said am a e-thug wtf you didnt even give me a reason why am a e-thug. you didnt prove to me what oil cant go over 3k. i didnt even wanna bother argueing with you now you wanna start **** with me again? wtf you have no life or somthing man?

and he is not downgradeing becuz of the car size moron. it the engine. and where the hell i said V? i did correct myself due to it was a mistype which i was at school and didnt have time to correct it. liek i said i had correct myself but your dumb self has to correct me again? dude your plan stupid shut the expletive up talking to me aiight? like i said you dont wanna argue with me dont fucken quote me period. nothing is hard... if it hard then kill yourself you dont need to live. make my life easier. for you


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you love to ramble don't you. you have diareha of the mouth.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sony224422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


you love to ramble don't you. you have diareha of the mouth. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i do. you have diareha of stupidness.

ahahaha your funny how you dont understand what i type down on here =P

i told you billion of time dont quote me then we cool but you have to be ignorant and do it =] it cool tho

hahahahahahahaha funny **** =] e-thug LOL oil cant get higher then 3k LOL!!!
nice one
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nViDia-ForCeZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yes i do. you have diareha of stupidness.

ahahaha your funny how you dont understand what i type down on here =P

i told you billion of time dont quote me then we cool but you have to be ignorant and do it =] it cool tho

hahahahahahahaha funny **** =] e-thug LOL oil cant get higher then 3k LOL!!!
nice one </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nViDia-ForCeZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yes i do. you have diareha of stupidness.

ahahaha your funny how you dont understand what i type down on here =P

i told you billion of time dont quote me then we cool but you have to be ignorant and do it =] it cool tho

hahahahahahahaha funny **** =] e-thug LOL oil cant get higher then 3k LOL!!!
nice one </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nViDia-ForCeZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yes i do. you have diareha of stupidness.

ahahaha your funny how you dont understand what i type down on here =P

i told you billion of time dont quote me then we cool but you have to be ignorant and do it =] it cool tho

hahahahahahahaha funny **** =] e-thug LOL oil cant get higher then 3k LOL!!!
nice one </TD></TR></TABLE>


whoopies.

oh and when did i say you can't get oil higher than 3k? i just said i wouldn't do it any higher. and yeah i've seen 7.5k and higher. big deal.

YOUZ SOOO COO
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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whoopies.

oh and when did i say you can't get oil higher than 3k? i just said i wouldn't do it any higher. and yeah i've seen 7.5k and higher. big deal.

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good job mr. lier do you want a cookie?
you never said that, prove to me. big deal? dude you been argueing with me about the damn mileage the whole night last night too now your saying it not a big deal? damn your dumb *** f*ck. i didnt say that you said it cant get higher but you said there are some oil that wont go higher then 3k which i want you to SEARCH for me and i have ask for 10000000x which you never show me any link and you never told me why am an e-thug.
ahhah your just dumb you cant even provide yourself with prof that i am a e-thug or oil cant go higher then 3k. if your saying am a e-thug becuz i argue with you.... then look on the other side.. who is argueing with who and who is quoting who.
if you ave seen it went up to 7.5k then why you bother argueing with me? that dumb. LOLz guess you got no life. like i have said befor and will repeat myself =]

« Re: (sony224422) « » 10:54 PM 2/4/2007 Reply Edit

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and who said anything about oil you dumb dumb human being. not every oil is rated for more than 3k, and yes i would folllow the manual seeing its not going to do anything but prolong the life of my car and keep it in top running shape. Unlike you, who knows nothing.


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edit:" i just said i wouldn't do it any higher" where you type that? copy and paste it and show me if you type that ill let you win. if you didnt. your just a lier and a moron. and thx i know am cool no need for you to tell me. ahhaah i bet you just got nothing else to complaine and talk about that why your typinf BS down.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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i wish i understood half the dumbass **** you say.

you keep saying how your right about everything. its funny how you keep telling me about oil when no one is talking about it. this is about an engine swap, and me saying the h22 doesn't seem like it'd have enough torque for this car. And notice how people are agreeing with me and not you. now stfu or leave.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sony224422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wish i understood half the dumbass **** you say.

you keep saying how your right about everything. its funny how you keep telling me about oil when no one is talking about it. this is about an engine swap, and me saying the h22 doesn't seem like it'd have enough torque for this car. And notice how people are agreeing with me and not you. now stfu or leave.</TD></TR></TABLE>

.. not enough torque? your obviously a dumbass you never seen h22 swap into a cl? and i keep saying it becuz i am right which like i said you dont wanna show me any link nor wanna tell me how am i a e-thug which prove me am right duh u dont understand english? go home then man i think it the best place for you. of corse this is engine swap which i had told you that it is possible and it would be a downgrade from a v6. and you come along saying the car is big (but you mean how much weight it is correct? which mean you need to learn english.) you dont understand half is because your dumb ahhaha. 300 pound more then accord is nothing man. it like me putting 400 pound rice bag in my accord and it still a go.plus h22 is way stronger.
or maybe are you THINKING that it a 3.0 that why h22 would suck? if your thinking like that then your wrong.
and i know am right. if you wanna talk about engine i talk about engine with you.
go ahead cuss all you want lol i careless it just prove to me your ignorant and want to be right becuz you think you know it all which you dont after i ask you for prof which has never been shown.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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.. not enough torque? your obviously a dumbass you never seen h22 swap into a cl? and i keep saying it becuz i am right which like i said you dont wanna show me any link nor wanna tell me how am i a e-thug which prove me am right duh u dont understand english? go home then man i think it the best place for you. of corse this is engine swap which i had told you that it is possible and it would be a downgrade from a v6. and you come along saying the car is big (but you mean how much weight it is correct? which mean you need to learn english.) you dont understand half is because your dumb ahhaha. 300 pound more then accord is nothing man. it like me putting 400 pound rice bag in my accord and it still a go.plus h22 is way stronger.
or maybe are you THINKING that it a 3.0 that why h22 would suck? if your thinking like that then your wrong.
and i know am right. if you wanna talk about engine i talk about engine with you.
go ahead cuss all you want lol i careless it just prove to me your ignorant and want to be right becuz you think you know it all which you dont after i ask you for prof which has never been shown.
thx =]</TD></TR></TABLE>

okay lets start off nice and simple for you.

1. i am home
2. 300 lbs is alot of weight to be moving around, but you probably wouldn't understand the way gravity works.
3. your still bitching about god only knows what.
4. your a dumbass 17 year old kid with NO respect on this forum, and your running your mouth and no one is agreeing with you. i don't even bother to read half the stuff you say.
5. what the f am i supposed to show you "prof" of. you want me to show you one of my professors?
oh and if you mean proof, i don't need to because i don't spend all my time on the internet trying to be cool and prove everyone wrong. just dumbasses like you.
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okay lets start off nice and simple for you.

1. i am home
2. 300 lbs is alot of weight to be moving around, but you probably wouldn't understand the way gravity works.
3. your still bitching about god only knows what.
4. your a dumbass 17 year old kid with NO respect on this forum, and your running your mouth and no one is agreeing with you. i don't even bother to read half the stuff you say.
5. what the f am i supposed to show you "prof" of. you want me to show you one of my professors?
oh and if you mean proof, i don't need to because i don't spend all my time on the internet trying to be cool and prove everyone wrong. just dumbasses like you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

okie you go ahead think that your smart ill just let it go since you would never learn. ahhaha eventho you know am right which you dont want me to be =P it cool man hahahahahaha 300 pound aint a lot to me. h22 can handle it. you dont read that why you dont understand and your stll argueing with me. so i guess you cant read fast enough huh. it cool. i dont spend all my time on the internet and you have to prove somthign to back it up what your saying. if you cant prove it then your wrong. that plain and simple. or why waste the time and argue? you have the time to argue with me but you dont have the time to prove me wrong? good idea. plus a typo you cant even understand it from the sentence? your dumb then. like i said you need everything "perfect" huh? i dont have time for these kind of argue ment plus hjacking somone forum x_X you can say/do what ever but i know i am correct which you cant prove me wrong. =] plus an h22 depending on which kind stock start at 190hp. that like 40-50 more hp then f22.

now on, if you dont wany any problem
<U>d o n ' t</U> quote me. that should be easy to understand correcT? =] coool
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too much drama
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Default Re: H22 in J30? (nViDia-ForCeZ)

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okie you go ahead think that your smart ill just let it go since you would never learn. ahhaha eventho you know am right which you dont want me to be =P it cool man hahahahahaha 300 pound aint a lot to me. h22 can handle it. you dont read that why you dont understand and your stll argueing with me. so i guess you cant read fast enough huh. it cool. i dont spend all my time on the internet and you have to prove somthign to back it up what your saying. if you cant prove it then your wrong. that plain and simple. or why waste the time and argue? you have the time to argue with me but you dont have the time to prove me wrong? good idea. plus a typo you cant even understand it from the sentence? your dumb then. like i said you need everything "perfect" huh? i dont have time for these kind of argue ment plus hjacking somone forum x_X you can say/do what ever but i know i am correct which you cant prove me wrong. =] plus an h22 depending on which kind stock start at 190hp. that like 40-50 more hp then f22.

now on, if you dont wany any problem
<U>d o n ' t</U> quote me. that should be easy to understand correcT? =] coool</TD></TR></TABLE>


maybe i like to. its fun pissing you off because it just makes you prove how stupid you really are. you keep telling me the same stuff. blah blah blah oil blah blah stupid blah blah. oh and im online all the time because im an IT and Networking Admin so i get to spend my days in front of my computer and i get paid for it .

now, 300 lbs is alot to be throwing around. its like having 2 extra people in your car all the time. i know my car doesn't accelerate as fast with 3 people in the car as it does with 1.
now say he has 3 people in the car, plus subs in the trunk, plus a full tank of gas, now thats another 400ish pounds with the extra weight of the car would make it 700 lbs heavier. following me still?
700 lbs is quite alot to be moving around isn't it
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