Some guy has a b16 lying around his garage, in the pics ive seen it looks horrible!!.. looks like it needs to be opened up and work done..
Anyways, he selling it for $150-200
Im gonna be pulling off all my Stock Type R goodies and was thinking of taking up a little project..
If i was to clean up this motor... slap in some oversized CTR pistons, my TypeR cams, bored out intake manifold and TB and a nice header..
how much power would i make..??.. and is this a good idea?
Im sure ppl have this setup..
This'll prolly end up being a winterbeater motor..if it happens
Thanx

 

its a bad idea.

 

What motor do you currently have?

 

i have an Us ITR motor..
why bad idea?..lol
i know all the bad stuff about the ctr piston... but i could care less about this project motor.. I curently have em in my motor and its been running great for the past 3 years!!...
if it runs as good ill be happy.. plus i get em cheap from honda for like $40 a pstion, I dont wanna blow a lot of money on a winter motor..

 

My son's set-up was:
92 JDM b16
0.20 overbore
CTR pistons and rings
balanced and micropolished crank
rebuilt OEM valvetrain
stock cams
skunk 2 IM
short ram intake
cat back exhaust
greddy 4-1 header

This engine dynoed at Churches at : 184.0 hp 130.0 ibs torque
A fun project - good luck.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kartman5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My son's set-up was:


This engine dynoed at Churches at : 184.0 hp 130.0 ibs torque
A fun project - good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>BullShit on the 130 tq, there's no way his b16 made that much tq with that set-up

 

As to your bull---- reply. Go to quick search, look under dyno - posted by
kartman. There you will see the dyno sheets showing 184.0 hp / and 131.1 lbs
torque. Thanks!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kartman5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My son's set-up was:
92 JDM b16
0.20 overbore
CTR pistons and rings
balanced and micropolished crank
rebuilt OEM valvetrain
stock cams
skunk 2 IM
short ram intake
cat back exhaust
greddy 4-1 header

This engine dynoed at Churches at : 184.0 hp 130.0 ibs torque
.</TD></TR></TABLE>He had more done than this 2 get 130 torque, just the ctr pistons and skunk2 mani didnt get him that much torque on a b16

 

As to the noob from florida who can't seem to read a dyno sheet and seems that
I have something to gain by lying about what was done to mys sons engine.
You can expletive yourself. The engine dynoed at those numbers with the mods
mentioned. Maybe you need to find a good engine builder? We have them here
in California!

FYI: The drive train was rebuilt using BC4 cams and this gave us another
10 hp and 3-4 lbs torque. This included and exteranl fuel pump and gauge.
Tuning was accomplished used HONDATA s200. Final dyno results were
194.2 hp and 134 lbs torque. You don't need to respond.

 

Forgot to mention. This engine was rebuilt from top to bottom. Hot tanked and
the head decked and rebuilt with oem parts. I also forgot to mention, that when
we rebuilt the second head we has a mild port and polish done. Thanks

 

I WOULD BUILD THAT BEATER.
just be sure to beat the living hell out of it
change the rod bolts and rev to 9200rpm+

 

wow haha hondachris got peown

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its a bad idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>why????

 

CTR pistons have a compression ratio roughly .030 more than other B series pistons. stock B16s have .020 PTDH which leave the top of the piston .010 out of the hole. this leaves approx .016 PTH clearance with a stock thickness head gasket.
this is all with a uncut deck. plus its hard to actually get compression out of a B16 due to its shorter deck height.

 

basically, your saying the piston will travel past the deck and head gasket??
hhhmmm, sounds like alota clearance issues(possible head gasket blow,no?).
have you or anyone you know run this setup?

 

past the initial part of the head gasket. i dont know anyone personally using this. i know several people on HT have but its just not worth the risk. plus this is not including expansion in parts once warmed up etc etc. id go with P30 pistons and be happy with that.

 

Buddy up there sports them inna ITR engine which is obviously way higher c/r than if it were ina b16a.

HHmmm for 3years he claims tooo.

If he claims that, would it really be that bad?

Skunk2 ran them ina 95'eg/b16a for some race i cant remeber(scca/honda challenge or something) back in 2000<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eg_TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an Us ITR motor..
why bad idea?..lol
i know all the bad stuff about the ctr piston... but i could care less about this project motor.. I curently have em in my motor and its been running great for the past 3 years!!...
if it runs as good ill be happy.. plus i get em cheap from honda for like $40 a pstion, I dont wanna blow a lot of money on a winter motor..</TD></TR></TABLE>Eg_TypeR....you had to have something hiding.what kinda tuning

 

i used them in a b16. ran fine. just couldn't use big cams(tried skunk stage 2 but had interfearence) with oem cams he should be fine

 

My Type R motor.. is almost stock!!
other that the CTR pistons, It has a mild port job, Bored out intake man. and tb, every little bolt on... and tunned on chrome.
made 185whp

 

did you put in the pistons(ctr)?dood your ***** far from stock

 

yea i put em in..
and by bolt on i mean, fuel pump, rail, regulator, CAI... that kind of stuff

 

dont buy it.

 

Having done what you contimplating, its' fun but cost alot of money. The head
alone can run $6000.00 if you really want to make a good motor out of it.
My son toolk a b16 a did just about all he could. Its a great motor and puts
down fantastic numbers, but was very expensive. Good luch!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eg_TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My Type R motor.. is almost stock!!
other that the CTR pistons, It has a mild port job, Bored out intake man. and tb, every little bolt on... and tunned on chrome.
made 185whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

you only made 185whp

am i missing something thats only like 10whp on a stock itr

 

and one guy say he used bc4 with ctr's and ther couldnt use s2s2 with ctr's

again what am i missing