which one is better in wet,dry,handleing,etc...in 195/50/15 size:

1.general exclaim uhp

2.kumho ecsta stp

3.Yokohama AVS ES100

4.Dunlop Direzza DZ101

if theres other suggestions, post em up..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e she i &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2.kumho ecsta spt

3.Yokohama AVS ES100</TD></TR></TABLE>

These are the only two I would look at out of the tires listed. I didn't have a great experience with the ES100, but that was on a heavy, camber challenged car and most people on H-T have had very good luck with them. The Ecsta SPT is IMO the best summer tire for the money available right now but both of them are quite good.

Jon

 

Here's how they rank in overall wet/dry performance:

1. Kumho SPT (not STP - that's oil treatment )
2. Yokohama ES100
3. Dunlop DZ101
4. General UHP

The SPT is also the cheapest of the four ($50-51/tire, vs $55-57 for the others, current Tire Rack prices for the 195/50-15 size you're getting).

Which makes it pretty much a no-brainer...

 

agreed the kumho spt is the best bang for the buck.. but if you wanted a tire that mainly saw dry weather and hardly any rain then i would get the falken 615

 

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He mentioned "wet" so I don't think he's asking about "hardly any rain". Also, the Falken Azenis RT-615 will only last about a third as many miles as the others mentioned above (10-12K miles vs 25-45K for the others).

The RT-615 is great for those looking ONLY for maximum dry traction. But for those looking for a daily driving tire that will last a while and/or will be used sometimes in rain, the choices mentioned above are much better.

 

how bout the nitto 450?..i found some new one for dirt cheap...

 

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The Nitto NT450 is an all-season tire (and a crappy one, too). All-seasons are designed for people who have to use the same tire in snow and frigid cold as they do in moderate to warm temperatures. In winter conditions, they don't perform as well as winter tires, and the rest of the time, they don't perform anywhere near as well as summer tires like the ones you first mentioned.

If you have to use these tires in snow and frigid cold as well as warm weather, get a good all-season tire (like the Kumho Ecsta ASX) or, better yet, get a second set of wheels, with one set of winter tires for winter, and the other set with your summer tires.

If you don't have to use these tires in snow or frigid cold, then the first four tires you mentioned are MUCH better than the all-season Nittos.

 

cool..thanks for the info..

 

they are a terrible tire in winter conditions... the kumho asx would be a better tire in that circumstance.........