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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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I have a 90 CRX, it came with a bad b16. so I put an LS with b16 tranny in it. I am getting a good tax return and wanting to start a build. I am lost...or not sure what would be better for a quick dd. Some advice on parts would help also. I was thinking about sticking the b16 head on for a while and build the b16 block? Would the b18 block be better to build or the b16 block? the b16 that was in the car had the #1 piston cooked do to 17psi and no tuning ie stock fuel and spark. I got the car for $500.00 and the ls was given to me. If you could kinda tell me why your choice is better that would help out. I came from about 4 years of building DSMs to hondas so I am not up to par on what is good and what is not with the hondas. Thanks allot.

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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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id go with thats in there and save the money turbo ls with a nice trani
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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any reason for any of the votes?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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i would say go all motor b16. You can make 200whp on pump gas. Yeah it will cost alittle more but from everything i have heard you can beat the snot out of them.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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LS-Vtec = headach
LSV-T = Bigger headach

dont get me wrong, if done right it can make lots of power, but personally I would rather have a turbo GSR motor or a turbo B16
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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is there a huge power difference from the lsvtec and the b16?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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depends what turbo, blah blah blah.....but in the end (IMO) I think the b16 would make you more happy....Boost>NA
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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lsvtec turbo is what i wanna do to my car.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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b16s are about as useful as ok, I can't even make up an analogy of how worthless they are.

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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lsvtec turbo.....mo torque ftw
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Well I have my mind set on turbo b16. I am waiting on ROSS 8:5.1 pistons and eagle rods. Not sure on cams yet. I have stock ones and GRS cams but not sure if they are going to hold up to 16-20psi. Let me know.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Turbo LSV's are amazing. tqy as all hell. I was going to do one, but I decided to do a complete LS build instead.

B16's are good boosted. NA they pretty much suck.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Is there a huge need for cams? Well I know that there is but is there a set of oem cams that I can use?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miragetsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there a huge need for cams? Well I know that there is but is there a set of oem cams that I can use? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea you can use CTR/ITR cams but it would be better if you save up a lil more money and go ls/vtec turbo you will be more satisfied
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:41 AM
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Building the bottom end for the b18 is gonna be the same $ amount as the b16 and will give more HP and torque. I wouldn't waste the time building the b16 unless your going for somthing to rev to 15 million rpm. LS/VTEC can be just as reliable as any other motor if done right.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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ok allot of people say lsvtec...so how much more HP and TQ is in the ls vs b16? One reason I am wanting to do the b16 is because it is out of my car and I can't really have down time one my car. So if someone can show me numbers of hp and tq lsvtec vs b18 that would be great
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Max The Amazing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16s are about as useful as ok, I can't even make up an analogy of how worthless they are.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Overhyped paperweight?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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sounds about right. The b16 can rev all day, but it doesnt make much low end power. The longer stroke of the LS gives it better tq all day long. If you got a GSR block use an ls crank to yield more tq as well.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wiZCo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Overhyped paperweight?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you need an iron block like a good old Chevy 305 holds your letters to Santa down better.

the 305 is a real paper weight, I had my home work under a b16 the wind blew shook the motor and it fell over my papers flew out the window and I failed my Latin test.

B16s arn't even good paperweights.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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turbo ls crazy tq!
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Max The Amazing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No, you need an iron block like a good old Chevy 305 holds your letters to Santa down better.

the 305 is a real paper weight, I had my home work under a b16 the wind blew shook the motor and it fell over my papers flew out the window and I failed my Latin test.

B16s arn't even good paperweights.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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i have a ls/vtec turbo set up in my crx and haven't had the first problem. gotta get it tuned soon though.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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for sure the ls/vtec turbo set up compression ratio is more suitable for boost
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