Well depending on what post you look at, it is unclear which model has the best steering ratio. Basically, I have an HF, and I hear a lot of clunking and squeeking when driving. And the steering is definitely feeling loose. So I want to put a new rack in. It currently has a 235,000 mile old HF rack in there. I need to know which rack is best, the Quaife, SI, or HF. And I don't want to install P/S, this is for HPDE.

 

ive heard nothing but praise for the quaiffe. that is what i will be putting in at some point. i have an si rack right now, and it doesnt feel quick. i think its the same as the dx rack, in fact.

 

Quafie if you are allowed to do it.

If I remember right stock HF is tightest.

 

Quaife it is

 

What all do I need to replace when I'm in there? I heard the rack ends are bad on EF's, which part is that? I figure I might as well freshen everything up while I'm in there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GI8U2racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What all do I need to replace when I'm in there? I heard the rack ends are bad on EF's, which part is that? I figure I might as well freshen everything up while I'm in there.


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anyone have a price on the quaife??

 

I've autox'd the quaife rack. Its great.

The quaife can only be installed into a DX donor rack as far as I know.

 

http://inlinefour.com/quaifquicrac.html take a peek there.

 

you can also put in a steering quickener

 

quaife can be put in the DX or the HF directly. this is because of the difference in the pinion lengths, i know there's a company out there that makes an adaptor for the pinion to make the si rack work, can't remember who it was, might be theoldone. I got mine for just over 200 at http://www.kingmotorsports.com

 

you will want to replace #10 which is the rack end bushing, new bearing #7- but when i oredered that from honda it came with the pinion too and was really expensive, see if you cant find the bearing by itself somewhere else. you need numbers 8 and 35 also, you will have to break the seal in order to get your old parts out.

 

when i ordered the quaife rack n pinion it came with a new pinion bearing, this was 2 years ago from Brian Hasty @ Fastbrakes when they had just become available. Havn't had time yet to install it but it keeps laughing at me in the cardboard tube it came in in the corner of my room. I should get around to it in a few weeks.

 

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what is that?

 

I new rack either stock or whatever will feel nice.

I have a new one on my civic fucken great feel.

 

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HF is same as DX. it is not tighter than Si. (id like to know who said this? youre not the first person ive heard misguided.)

btw a "new" rack that is non power steering is just a new $10 bushing and $5 bearing. thats all there is that is rebuildable on a steering rack and not much more labor to install than replacing the whole rack.

therefore i do not suggest buying a new (rebuilt) steering rack. (if you can find one available.)


Modified by Tyson at 11:59 AM 1/30/2007

 

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HF is same as DX. it is not tighter than Si.

btw a "new" rack that is non power steering is just a new $10 bushing and $5 bearing. thats all there is that is rebuildable on a steering rack and not much more labor to install than replacing the whole rack.

therefore i do not suggest buying a new (rebuilt) steering rack. (if you can find one available.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

dang that cheap. I thought it was a much more involved. how about the PS rack how much does it cost to rebuild?

 

HF is same as DX. it is not tighter than Si.

Right. I got a Si rack for about $10, so I swapped it with for my Std. one. I saved the old one in case I ever go to the quaife. Anybody know if the the quaife is "too twitchy" on the streets?

 

in for more info.

 

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upon further investigation, it appears the FIRST GEN HF has a different (part number) steering rack that is quicker (maybe), and is beneficial to FIRST GEN Integras.

(and like nearly EVERY part from a 1st gen crx, it is not compatible with a 2nd gen crx.)

so this has nothing to do with 2nd gen EF's. please stop this misinformation!

 

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Doesn't the Quaife kit come with this?

 

yes

 

mine did not come with the bearing.

 

neither did mine the first time it shipped, it came with the end cap missing off of my package, the rack threads full of mud and no pinion gear. Needless to say I sent it back and the one I received after that came with the new pinion bearing.

 

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upon further investigation, it appears the FIRST GEN HF has a different (part number) steering rack that is quicker (maybe), and is beneficial to FIRST GEN Integras.

(and like nearly EVERY part from a 1st gen crx, it is not compatible with a 2nd gen crx.)

so this has nothing to do with 2nd gen EF's. please stop this misinformation!</TD></TR></TABLE>
That probbly explains where the rumor came from, I was careful to word not to take what I said as gospel as it's something I read here, probbly back on the V1 FAQ.

Well for once I log on to HT a brain cell is gained

 

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what is that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

In case you wanted to know you install it inline in your steering shaft, there are multiple ratios the most popular are 1.5-1 and 2-1
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