I need a new motor for my 01 Prelude SH. I know I have limited options because of the atts unit. I found out the hard way and bought a 92+ H22a long block. My main question is will the base model prelude's h22a4 motor work with my SH tranny or are the blocks different between the base model and the SH model?

 

yes, there is a SH model w/o the atts. im not 100% but i bought a motor from a SH 99 i think, it had no atts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, there is a SH model w/o the atts. im not 100% but i bought a motor from a SH 99 i think, it had no atts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are not 100% sure because you are wrong. SH refers to the ATTS version of the h22a4. If it is a SH it will have ATTS from the factory.

yes they are different. searching will yield a vast amount of information on this subject.

 

how is it then that i got a SH motor w/o atts? I saw the car and the motor in it. ????

 

well, someone could have done a base swap ... or they could have a base tranny with a custom plate for the intermediate shaft to attach to the SH block.

SH means super handling. Honda badged the car "SH" for a reason... they added the Active Torque Tranfer System. Why else do you think it is an SH? Cause it has a factory spoiler? Only way you have a base out of a SH is if someone swaped it.

 

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kk, thanks for clearing that up

 

^^wtf? random, nobody cares about your SH

 

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you are not 100% sure because you are wrong. SH refers to the ATTS version of the h22a4. If it is a SH it will have ATTS from the factory.

yes they are different. searching will yield a vast amount of information on this subject.</TD></TR></TABLE>

rudeness

I have been told that you can make the SH tranny work. I couldn't get my apapter piece off that went into the ATTS when I tried, but search around. You might find someone that has a walk through on how to do it.

 

i meant no offense with my comments. just trying to correct information before it becomes misinformation.... which there seems to be alot of on HT.

i mean anyone can give an answer that they think is right. but if it isnt correct information, how does that help the OP? it doesnt. in fact it hurts them by creating misinformation that they may base future decisions off of. i just wanted to correct the info and make sure anyone else who looks at this thread can be sure about.

and yes you can make the SH block with an intermediate shaft and adapter plate. i know pirateMcFred makes (made?) adapter plates for this set up.

edited to correct content


Modified by arkosh.kovash at 4:24 PM 1/30/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arkosh.kovash &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i meant no offense with my comments. just trying to correct information before it becomes misinformation.... which there seems to be alot of on HT. </TD></TR></TABLE> No problem.

He doesn't need an adapter plate, though. It's not an SH block.

 

read the faq

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1081801

 

I have never heard nor seen anyone remove the ATTS unit and retain the SH tranny and use a base intermediate shaft. If you want to remove the ATTS and still use the SH block you need to fab up a plate for the intermediate shaft and use the Base tranny. All this info about the base intermediate shaft fitting a SH tranny is new to me.....

 

Guys, read the original post. He must have crapped out his SH motor. He bought a non-SH block and is wondering if it will work with the transmission.

 

no. it will not.

sh block must use SH tranny

base block must use base tranny

 

oops. meant to say the SH block work... &lt;- being on HT at work pwns me

as far as the SH tranny on a base block, goodluck. biggest issue being how to mount the atts




Modified by arkosh.kovash at 4:25 PM 1/30/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no. it will not.

sh block must use SH tranny

base block must use base tranny
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I used a base tranny on an SH block. You need an adapter plate to fit to the block so that you can mount the intermediate shaft, but it WILL work. Now, I'm sure it could be done with the ATTS, but I wouldn't want to undergo fabing an adapter for the ATTS.

 

Ok guys thanks for the info, Ive been doin lots of research on this so i gotta good understanding now. I was told since I already have the jdm h22a to put in my car that I should just get a tranny that will work with that motor such as a M2B4 or M2Y4 and all will be fine. I'm just wondering if all this will be ok and bolt up to my 01 lude.

 

Yes, everything will be a straight bolt on. Just make sure you label EVERYTHING...bolts, harnesses. I wish I had....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM^5thGen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I'm just wondering if all this will be ok and bolt up to my 01 lude.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have been wondering this myself. I know there are minor differences in axle length between the 4th gen, 5th gen base and 5thgen SH... but do these minor difference have any negative effects on the steering/suspension or overall fitment?

What axles and intermediate shaft are you planning on using?

 

I'm not real sure if i'll need different axles and intermediate shaft. I was hoping someone would have answered that for me.

 

You don't. Just get the base motor, base tranny, and intermediate shaft. Everything else is straight hookup....axles, motor mounts.