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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Let's say you have a second gen 5 series b16a. Your redline would be like 7900, but the motor stops getting anymore power at 7800 rpm. Are you supposed to drive it to 7900 or are you supposed to shift at 7800 rpm, and why?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (Vanilla4215)

lets get this straight
no such thing as a gen 5 b16.
you mean you have a 5th gen civic with a b16? is the b16 first or second gen?
and with stock intake, header and exhaust i would shift about 7700
once you start opening it up with intake header and exhaust its good to go to 8,000 and above
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (KAMiN)

If you notice I said "second gen." The five series, being the best b16a motor.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (RICErocket03)

Vanilla what all do you have done to you b16? the reason I asked is because my friends Del Sol ( has a B16) Produces Hp all the way to 9K, it just gets there so damn quick.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (Vtec Goblin)

I was just wondering in general of when you should shift a motor compared to stock specs. I don't even have a b16a motor. I am putting in my b20vtec this weekend if I can get the JE 11.0:1 pistons in.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (Vanilla4215)

I understand why Kamin misunderstood, not everyone takes time to read each post over and over to completely understand it, jeez.

shift with what you feel comfortable, but understand what a higher rev can do to your engine overtime.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (samdawgsol)

i thought redline on a b16 was 8200
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (BrandonClaps)

Kinda stealing this post (sorry). But to stay in a powerband is it better to rev higher (even if you don't make power that high) so that you can drop into the powerband. Or to shift where you stop making power and have to bring it back into the powerband?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (BrandonClaps)

i know someone who ran there b16 all the way to 9500 and it souned sooo good you should hear those things at that high of a rpm
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (RedlineUBRF)

Did we really need to know you had a "5" series B16? No. That's what made it confusing.

Take it to the dyno and find where your car (b/c every motor is diff.) stops
making power. That should tell you exactly where to shift.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (blackANESE)

<---- newbie , whats a 5 series......????
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Old May 17, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (Boost Pressure)

valve springs to a new 9.5k redline...
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Old May 17, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (RICErocket03)

i guess Kamin is fucken blind to see what you wrote..he needs to read more carefully....and when your engine loses power at that point...you should try shifting a little bit earlier..and u shouldnt redline because it slows your car down


[Modified by RICErocket03, 6:01 AM 5/17/2002]
who are you to call me ******* blind you little newbie?
his post was confusing. i was just trying to clarify it for him if he didnt know. apparently he does.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (BrandonClaps)

i thought redline on a b16 was 8200
there ya go...honda obviously made a stock b16 to redline a 8200 for a reason.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Default Re: When to shift? (RICErocket03)

i guess Kamin is fucken blind to see what you wrote..he needs to read more carefully....and when your engine loses power at that point...you should try shifting a little bit earlier..and u shouldnt redline because it slows your car down


[Modified by RICErocket03, 6:01 AM 5/17/2002]
ummm no.
You dont shift when it stops making power, you shift at redline. LIke one person said, you keep it in the powerband longer, making more power for longer, that means you go faster.

Dont flame people with lots of posts, when you only have a few. just a tip.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 04:20 AM
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Default Re: When to shift? (BrandonClaps)

i thought redline on a b16 was 8200
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Old May 18, 2002 | 05:45 AM
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this should have been asked in the newbie forum, since this is a newbie type question
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