Whats up guys? Well everyone knows that tax season is coming up and i want to make a purchase on a motor, but i don't know what kind to get I'm really leaning towards the h22 but i've been hearing a lot of neagatives, does anyone have any positives or have a dc2 with a h22 if so holla at me and let me know whats up.

 

for an H22 you'd probably need aftermarket mounts that are stiffer, and the engine is also larger thus being heavier than the b18, and it wastes more gas, and I think the gearbox is cable, instead of shift linkage, pound for pound less powerful than the B18C5, and lower RPM (stock)

Positives that I can think of is that it has more HP than a B18C1

 

Cons: all the ones listed above + throws off your weight distribution = handling is off, The gearing of the tranny sucks.

 

good looking on the info so you think that even though the motor is more powerful the type r motor will out perform it.

 

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its also expensive

 

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no it's not..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Exeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for an H22 you'd probably need aftermarket mounts that are stiffer, and the engine is also larger thus being heavier than the b18, and it wastes more gas, and I think the gearbox is cable, instead of shift linkage, pound for pound less powerful than the B18C5, and lower RPM (stock)

Positives that I can think of is that it has more HP than a B18C1 </TD></TR></TABLE>

RPM is irrelevant...it does not weigh much more than a b18...It has a lot more going for it...It is a closed deck design (IIRC), it has a larger displacement to work with (which will yield more power than any b18 given the same circumstances)

 

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no it's not..
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really... I think 3 grand + is a lot. ..... really I guess its an opinon, its def. not cheap.

a turbo is more bang for the buck

 

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30009

Above is a complete GSR swap

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30017

Above is a complete H22 swap

3000+ for it?? no I dont think so, and it's 1000 less than a GSR swap...But thanx for the input

 

ok your right 2grand is pocket change, anyone can afford it, and its something everyone should do, because it is actually cheap.

anyway I guess not everyone has that low price tag
http://www.jspecauto.com/catal...id=99

 

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anyway I guess not everyone has that low price tag
http://www.jspecauto.com/catal...id=99</TD></TR></TABLE>

That sucks...but now you know that it doesn't cost 3k + (which is the statement you made earlier) and knowing is half the battle...

Besides, that price is for a complete change from a vendor...You can easily purchase the long block seperately/locally as well as the transmission and save a lot of money...But anyway you slice it, vendor or local, it's not 3k + for it

 

I would never fork out that much money for a GSR long block. If you want a GSR long block. Buy the pieces seperately and save yourself A LOT of money.

4-500 for a used block + a few hundred to have it rebuilt
4-500 for a head
4-600 for a tranny


Thats cheaper then the H22 swap. and you dont have to worry about having to buy different mounts, diff axles, ECU, shift linkage. less hassle. And while the block and the motor is apart might as well build it up.

 

you are right, and your post honestly made me laugh. Anyway 2+ grand isn't expensive ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by viet_boi_racin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would never fork out that much money for a GSR long block. If you want a GSR long block. Buy the pieces seperately and save yourself A LOT of money.

4-500 for a used block + a few hundred to have it rebuilt
4-500 for a head
4-600 for a tranny


Thats cheaper then the H22 swap. and you dont have to worry about having to buy different mounts, diff axles, ECU, shift linkage. less hassle. And while the block and the motor is apart might as well build it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's your perogative...I just gave links of a vendor that shows even at some of the steepest prices an h22 swap isnt 3k plus...And you can easily buy an h22 long block and tranny seperately as well...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are right, and your post honestly made me laugh. Anyway 2+ grand isn't expensive ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

When put into the large scale of what youre talking about??? No..Not when from the same vendor a swap of a b18c1 is going for more...And for the amount of b18c1's in cars it's clearly a common swap

 

This is in the Integra Forum FAQ:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1084100

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=460871

 

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When put into the large scale of what youre talking about??? No..Not when from the same vendor a swap of a b18c1 is going for more...And for the amount of b18c1's in cars it's clearly a common swap</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alright I'll give you that...that is only comparitively speaking. If someone isn't already shopping for an engine swap, it could be expensive...just remember not everyone has the same income as you do, and at any rate its not pocket change

 

okay besides the price, what are the pros and cons of doing this project.

 

Pros: Horsepower and torque
Cons: It's heavy

 

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If someone isn't already shopping for an engine swap, it could be expensive...just remember not everyone has the same income as you do, and at any rate its not pocket change</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not an expensive swap no matter how you look at it? And when did IVIemphiz show his check stub? If your in the market to swap a motor and your not expecting to spend $2000+ you need to re-evaluate.

 

manifold is real close to firewall.

 

Well it seems that, that the only cons are its heavy. But that can be fixed with stiffer mounts and suspension, which could cost some cash. And I guess it will burn more gas because its heavier. And the pros are its fast, but even though the motor is cheap seems like you gotta do a lot of **** to make it work good.

 

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What motor do you currently have? IMO I'd go with a turbo kit. More power than an H22 swap (stock) and not worrying about the hassle of swaping motors (h22 not as easy to drop in as a b-series).

The reason I mention boost is because you sound like you want some good gains and I think you may be a tad disappointed with the h22 (tranny gearing isn't best unless you do h2b) Do you have a budget?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SUPERSONICGSR99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well it seems that, that the only cons are its heavy. But that can be fixed with stiffer mounts and suspension, which could cost some cash. And I guess it will burn more gas because its heavier. And the pros are its fast, but even though the motor is cheap seems like you gotta do a lot of **** to make it work good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is not significantly heavier, the people spewing that are a bit clueless...On average I've seen h22 DC's in the high 13's and some in the low 14's...It's not a bad bang for the buck especially since it would be just as much maintenance as if you were still with your stock engine vs a turbo application...There are a lot of things to worry about when you go turbo..And if you have no experience in the area, you wouldnt be properly piecing together a turbo kit for under the price of the h22