Before anyone flames me I did search, and I did find some info, but not exactly what I am looking for. I have 1200 bucks and I want to know which would be the best investment, a turbo setup, or a ls/vtec swap. A have a 90 DA as my daily driver and I am looking for a fun street car. It has 175,000 miles on it, I have a aluminum fidanza flywheel, innovative mounts, lowered 2", and a flowmaster catback. I want to go turbo but i don't think that I can do it right for 1200. Is there anyone out there that can explain to me exactly what turbo-ing it is going to run me. I am not looking for any huge name parts, no incredible hp numbers, just a fun daily driver. Any tips will be a help, thanks

 

either of those would be good considering u have a DA (light), But IMO u should turbo it.

 

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you might want to edit that post

 

I think the vtec will be a little cheaper, but im not sure if I have to tune it with a turbo. If I go with a turbo and say 5psi how much tuning is this going to take. Getting a car tuned up here is almost impossible. Any more advice

 

they are both gonna end up running the same. if you go cheap with either they wont be reliable. id say just wait and save. you dont have to tune, but i wouldnt do it myself

 

It'll end up costing about the same. Boost FTW. You'll have much more fun driving a LS-T then LS-VTEC.

Eitherway you'll want to have the motors tuned. And with LSVTEC in order to have a good reliable set-up. you'll need Vtec oil pump, water pump, stronger rod bolts ect. So it'll add up to be about the same as a turbo set-up. You'll have a lot more power. and boost is a lot more fun.

 

uhh ls/vtec-T.....just kidding ,do you wanna hear vtec screaming or turbo spoolin....personally id do vtec ..less problems to deal with but hey what do i know im a peice of ****

 

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sure if you dont want the engine to last, dont tune it

 

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Y?

 

NA is best .

 

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NA is great cause its straight raw power. But will take A LOT of money to have a fast NA car.

 

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because DA's arent exactly "light"

 

NA is best Boost that DA9, NA torque can't touch boosted. VTEC motors have 10 more moving parts per cylinder than their non-VTEC counter parts. The way I see it is that's 40 more opportunities for something to go wrong.

 

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lighter than dc' s when done right

 

You can do a cheap turbo setup, and it be reliable. There is some guy on here that turbo'd his teg using parts from a mitsubshi eclipse(1st gen).. It cost him approx. 1000 dollars to do....best thing is you can get a lot of parts from the eclipse. But every turbo setup requires a tune

 

as a matter of fact you can even get the turbo off a volvo which would be extremely cheap if you buy it at a junkyard. and some places give you warranties. you could also use the eclipse intercooler, go to a machine shop and have the headers converted so you can slap the turbo on and make your own piping but it will require tuning. my friend did that and made his car turbo for $750. which is pretty cheap but then again he was only boosting 6 lbs. which is still not bad.

 

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The DSM turbo is pretty small. It'll fall on its face before redline. If you search around and dont mind buying used parts you can do a good set-up for a little over 1000. My old LS-T set up i pieced together for 1200 for everything and tuning. You can find a log manifold for under 200. Intercooler for 100-150. Piping kit for 50-60. A decent sized T3 for 2-300. Wastegate $150. BOV 50-100. Downpipe 100. oil line kit 50-60. $50 for misc coupler and clamps. Chip your own ECU. find somebody to tune it. tuning cost will vary.

 

I really want to go boost but im not sure if my internals will hold up to it.
What are the ls internals capable of?
How much boost?
What would a tune cost me?
How much will a tune run me and can I do it myself with the dyno at school?
Where in Maine can I get a tune?
My biggest question is about how much hp am I looking at getting out of a cheap but reliable ls-turbo?
Can anyone give me a detailed list of parts for a complete turbo kit?

If I do decide to swap the head, should I put CTR pistons and rods?

 

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= / go look up the curb weight for a dc and a da...Youll feel a little ashamed of yourself when you do

 

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What are the ls internals capable of?
How much boost?
What would a tune cost me?
How much will a tune run me and can I do it myself with the dyno at school?
Where in Maine can I get a tune?
My biggest question is about how much hp am I looking at getting out of a cheap but reliable ls-turbo?
Can anyone give me a detailed list of parts for a complete turbo kit?

If I do decide to swap the head, should I put CTR pistons and rods?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you should do a search

 

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SEARCH FTW!!!

 

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sry! I got a little excited. Im just getting a little worked up about this. I can't make up my mind bcs everyone says boost is best but I know its not as reliable as the head. My mind is in a bind.

 

As long as its well tuned it should just be just as reliable as a NA motor. I ran 10lb of boost on my LS-T set up for over a year. Daily driven. Beaten to **** on the weekend. When i took my turbo off over a year later to sell the car. compression was still near perfect.

 

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lighter than dc' s when done right
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1992 Integra LS coupe w/ manual transmission : 2619 lbs
1994 Integra LS couple w/ manual transmission: 2643 lbs

not much of a difference.

 

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1992 Integra LS coupe w/ manual transmission : 2619 lbs
1994 Integra LS couple w/ manual transmission: 2643 lbs

not much of a difference.

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ur right but the DA looks much better than the DC2 with the round headlights