Anyone put a H22 or H23 into rex or EF? I'm thinking in a year or so I'de like to do it to my daily driver. Also its so big any heavy what springs would be used?

 

ALSO post pics of this if possible Thanks

 

Sounds like a dumb daily driver idea....i would just do B20VTEC.

 

Agreed...bad idea for a daily driver..to much weight. go ls-v or cr-vtec, for some good power, and descent weight.

-Jake

 

why is it bad for a daily driver, if you are daily driving the damn thing then what does it matter how much it weighs. Its not like you auto-x your daily driver. I sure as hell don't thats how it gets the daily driver name. I want a h22 in my 91 hatch because i want more speed and power than what a b16 can give me. I'm getting power greedy to be honest. i have though about this idea and kinda was searching for info on it to see how much of a bitch it would be for a personal install with some friends. I don't care if the car handles or not, i won't be racing the car other than at the drag strip

 

that is my engine bay.......i daily drive it and dont have problems......

 

one thing you all seem to be forgetting, and this is perhaps the most important thing to consider, is oil pan clearance. my roommate has an h22 on our garage siting on a palate. when the motor is next to my car the valve cover sits higher than my hood! meaning that the oilpan would have less than 2 in of clearance if it were on my car, and my car is no where near as low as some ef's i;ve seen.

 

I think it's not necessarily a bad idea for a daily driver because of how it handles, but how it changes the handling/braking characteristics. Also, doing maintenance on that thing will be a beeyatch. How're you going to change the waterpump? Timing belt? Alternator pulley? Yeesh... what a PITA that would be.

 

but there is always something in a swap that has to be overcome. all i'm saying that some people have done and i am sure there was stuff that they can give people like us some pointers on. I don't care if its a biatch, try changing anything in a MR2 engine bay or a 300 ZX then tell me PITA.

 

my car is dropped really low.......and one time i hit a bump and ripped open my oil pan and it was a big pain in the ***.......but besdies that i havent had any problems with scraping..........just dont be stupid and go over bumps fast......i havent really had any problems with clearance besides that

 

i was gona do a h22 but im going dsm...

 

esp169!

Like many of us 4thgeners I have often considered this swap myself! I never knew anyone who had one or had I seen pics of a streetable car with the swap! So forgive me but I'm going to ask you some q's I'm sure you've answered a hundred times.

1. did you do the swap your self?
2. how long did it take?
3. how much frame modifaction did it take to get it in there?
4. was it worth the money and the effort, and would you do it again?
5. what kinda times to you turn with it?
6. what mount kit did you use if any?
7. ruff guess how much did it cost to complete the swap?

thanks

 

i really only know this from what I've heared, but it can be a pain in the butt to steer even as a daily driver. Also someone made a good point about basic maint. being a problem. Is a H series engine your only option. Does your car have to produce the amount of power they offer. What if you put some bolt-ons and i/h/e on a LS. Wouldn't that be enough. If your not going to be doing serious racing how much power do you really need. Also why do you want that much extra power as compared to a B16. Stoplight races or what. I'm just trying to make a point here. Is a H series engine worth all the problems that could possible arrise from having such an enormse engine.

 

no problem asking ?'s thas why we have honda-tech but anyway ill try

1.no
2.dont know
3. the engine bay has some cutting and welding and a front crossmember
4.yes, when i bought this car i didnt know that much but i would defintly do the swap now and yes its fast
5. 12.6
6. it has custom mounts that were made by a mechanic in jersey
7. 4000

when i bought the car it had the swap in it but basically everything has been redone from remounting and rewiring it to fuel system and all that crap its a fun car to drive i dont have problems turning....it doesnt handle like a type R but just regular driving it is fine and when you are going in a straight line you will be happy you did the swap.....if you are thinking about it just do it dont listen to all the people who have heard its bad

hope i answered your ?'s

 

well i hope it is something that peole can do themselves. I would want to do it myself with help i was hoping you had experience but oh well. do you find its a bitch to work on and does it handle so bad its noticable? how low is your car? what kind spring rate for the front and back would you suggest to get to equal it out. sorry if i asked things you couldn't asnwer. i am just trying to get a feel as for what i will need. what tranny are you running

 

b16 power is WEAK. fawkin weak man. you're still gonna get stunned by 95% of people on the street. i've seen it over and over and over again. you think mid 14's (more than likely LOW 15's in street form) is fast? HA HA. an I/H/E b18a/b is still weak. trust me, i've got one. it's nothin on the big scale. YES, you do need Hseries power. i'm currently working on one. h22a swap---

 

working on it hasnt been any more difficult then i would expect from a car i mean somtimes there is less room so you have to adjust but you will get that from any swap......when you are turning hard sometimes the tires will screech a little but its not like your skidding out doing a regular turn or anything.......it has kyb shocks and intrac springs right now with a 1.8 drop but its real low i think i want to raise it a little higher when i have money

 

sounds like the power you want isn't something that a honda can provide without sacrifising a lot of handling and money. why don't you get a 240sx with one of those sr20det turbo swaps in it. you'll probably be happier.

 

that's what i was gonna say. also check out mustangs, camaros, and trans ams.

 

I figure you spend ruffly 4000.00 for an h22 swap for around 195 to the flywheel, when you can spend ruffly 2500-3000 and get a crvtec and still put down ruffly the same horsepower maybe not the same torque but for the extra dollars that is gonna be left over you can completly destroy a stock h22 for the same money, and still have pretty much the same driveablity as say and b16. Just my two pennies.
Lee


[Modified by Rex2nv, 7:49 PM 5/17/2002]

 

i am glad to hear that someone has a fully functioning daily driven H22 rexer. actually, i am really impressed. however, i think that you got a very special situation and the swap was done by someone who knew what they were doing. the costs of someone doing that on their own would be very high, from buying the motor and trans to custom axles, possibly custom knuckles, custom mounts. then there is all the sheet metal work in the engine bay to make it fit. i don't see the reason to buy an H series motor when it is so much simpler to build a CRVTEC. there is still some machine work to be done, but it is so much simpler to stay B series. a built CRVTEC can easily make the 220HP that the H22 puts out, but that CRVTEC will walk on that H22 and still be cost effective. mounts are readily available, and the swap can be done easily. personally, i am not impressed with the aftermarket following for the H series engines so far. look at the real time integra's on the SCCA races. they all run built B series all motor. most likely B18C's with TODA parts. i think that B series is a better way to go, especially since i am not going into extensive frame modification. remember, these are unibody cars, and it is not a good idea to go messing with the frame.

 

also check out mullets

 

Here is a though... Is there any advantages of using the h22 over taking a b18 and boring it out to 2.2L and resleving the block and using oversized pistons? I believe that I have heard that you can bore out a b18 block to 86/87mm... It would cost a bit to build the block, but it would fit nicely as it is still a b18 on the outside....

 

what do you mean the power you want you should get from a SR20DET powered 240sx??? yes a heavy 240 with a 220 hp motor!! wooh!!! , a crx with a h22 would be sick!! the motor is only A LITTLE BIT HEAVEIR THAN A GSR MOTOR!!! people make it sound like its a big block 454!! the cr-vtec motors arent much lighter!!! and they are still big motors! let him do what he wants! and it seems like he wants to just put a motor in not spend tome building a cr-vtec or a ls..........i say go for it!! be original have fun!
and that thing would be a blast!!!!!!

 

i can see why people wouldnt want it but from someone who daily drives it i can tell you its not that bad.....yea i wasnt the one who did the swap but i have worked on it plenty of times and its really not that much bigger then a gs-r engine.....if you already planned on doing it just go for it