n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part
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n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part
b18a1 engine
i will be going with a full crower internals, honda seals on head. i plan on buying a walboro 255 fuel pump. i wanna run aftermarket rods arp head studs and connecting bolts. i will also have a blox intake mani or a skunk2 on it (i have both)
my problem is with the block. i don't want to bore,
- what comp pistons should i get?
- should i invest in a sleeve gaurd?
- what rods... i noticed there where different lengths or sizes or something
- should i put a different oil pump in?
- injectors? fuel rail?
- HELP no experience first timer... don't tell me to read and search I KNOW
this is my first build so any help be appreciated
the car is a weekend warrior, and i want it to last but i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing
i will be going with a full crower internals, honda seals on head. i plan on buying a walboro 255 fuel pump. i wanna run aftermarket rods arp head studs and connecting bolts. i will also have a blox intake mani or a skunk2 on it (i have both)
my problem is with the block. i don't want to bore,
- what comp pistons should i get?
- should i invest in a sleeve gaurd?
- what rods... i noticed there where different lengths or sizes or something
- should i put a different oil pump in?
- injectors? fuel rail?
- HELP no experience first timer... don't tell me to read and search I KNOW
this is my first build so any help be appreciated
the car is a weekend warrior, and i want it to last but i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (rewerbcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rewerbcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18a1 engine
i will be going with a full crower internals, honda seals on head. i plan on buying a walboro 255 fuel pump. i wanna run aftermarket rods arp head studs and connecting bolts. i will also have a blox intake mani or a skunk2 on it (i have both)
my problem is with the block. i don't want to bore,
- what comp pistons should i get?
- should i invest in a sleeve gaurd?
- what rods... i noticed there where different lengths or sizes or something
- should i put a different oil pump in?
- injectors? fuel rail?
- HELP no experience first timer... don't tell me to read and search I KNOW
this is my first build so any help be appreciated
the car is a weekend warrior, and i want it to last but i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing
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That's kind of an issue. To get that kind of horsepower with an NA motor, you'd need wicked compression which would be HORRIBLE for a turbocharged motor.
I'd say build for turbo.
Stock Compression Pistons, Just Forged Instead
Blockguards are great, just make sure you get one that's quality.
Eagle H-Beam rods should be sufficient?
Stock oil pump is fine for MOST applications, Upgrade if you want the added comfort.
1000cc fuel injectors so the sky's the limit for boost.
Venom or AEM. Both make decent high-flow fuel rails.
Just my 2 cents.
---richard
i will be going with a full crower internals, honda seals on head. i plan on buying a walboro 255 fuel pump. i wanna run aftermarket rods arp head studs and connecting bolts. i will also have a blox intake mani or a skunk2 on it (i have both)
my problem is with the block. i don't want to bore,
- what comp pistons should i get?
- should i invest in a sleeve gaurd?
- what rods... i noticed there where different lengths or sizes or something
- should i put a different oil pump in?
- injectors? fuel rail?
- HELP no experience first timer... don't tell me to read and search I KNOW
this is my first build so any help be appreciated
the car is a weekend warrior, and i want it to last but i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing
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That's kind of an issue. To get that kind of horsepower with an NA motor, you'd need wicked compression which would be HORRIBLE for a turbocharged motor.
I'd say build for turbo.
Stock Compression Pistons, Just Forged Instead
Blockguards are great, just make sure you get one that's quality.
Eagle H-Beam rods should be sufficient?
Stock oil pump is fine for MOST applications, Upgrade if you want the added comfort.
1000cc fuel injectors so the sky's the limit for boost.
Venom or AEM. Both make decent high-flow fuel rails.
Just my 2 cents.
---richard
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (office888)
i don't think i will turbo but there is alway sa possibility down the road.. i think i would do a different engine for that anyway...
forgot to mention i have a shaved head... it was done so long ago that i don't remember how much the compression is high already. 10 or 11:1
forgot to mention i have a shaved head... it was done so long ago that i don't remember how much the compression is high already. 10 or 11:1
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250whp without a bore? Good luck. Stock 1.8L make around 220whp with HIGH compression (~12.5:1) and a full built head (Skunk 2 Pro Series all around) on a good tune.
Keep the stock LS pistons for low Comp, then add the turbo. You might want to invest in some rod bolts. LS rods are toothpicks and tend to not like being forced or revved. I would do a hone with new rings and bearings. Head studs and refurbish the head. New seals all around and voila, turbo ready B18 engine.
For the injectors/rails, go aftermarket with some high flowing injectors and rail. But it's the tune that will be able to get the right use for them.
Keep the stock LS pistons for low Comp, then add the turbo. You might want to invest in some rod bolts. LS rods are toothpicks and tend to not like being forced or revved. I would do a hone with new rings and bearings. Head studs and refurbish the head. New seals all around and voila, turbo ready B18 engine.
For the injectors/rails, go aftermarket with some high flowing injectors and rail. But it's the tune that will be able to get the right use for them.
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (rewerbcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rewerbcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18a1 engine
i will be going with a full crower internals, honda seals on head. i plan on buying a walboro 255 fuel pump. i wanna run aftermarket rods arp head studs and connecting bolts. i will also have a blox intake mani or a skunk2 on it (i have both)
my problem is with the block. i don't want to bore,
- what comp pistons should i get?
- should i invest in a sleeve gaurd?
- what rods... i noticed there where different lengths or sizes or something
- should i put a different oil pump in?
- injectors? fuel rail?
- HELP no experience first timer... don't tell me to read and search I KNOW
this is my first build so any help be appreciated
the car is a weekend warrior, and i want it to last but i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing
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Im just curios why you want 250 whp all motor? that's going to be very hard and very expensive. Have you ever even been in a 200whp honda? or even 160whp? you're not being pratical.
i will be going with a full crower internals, honda seals on head. i plan on buying a walboro 255 fuel pump. i wanna run aftermarket rods arp head studs and connecting bolts. i will also have a blox intake mani or a skunk2 on it (i have both)
my problem is with the block. i don't want to bore,
- what comp pistons should i get?
- should i invest in a sleeve gaurd?
- what rods... i noticed there where different lengths or sizes or something
- should i put a different oil pump in?
- injectors? fuel rail?
- HELP no experience first timer... don't tell me to read and search I KNOW
this is my first build so any help be appreciated
the car is a weekend warrior, and i want it to last but i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing
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Im just curios why you want 250 whp all motor? that's going to be very hard and very expensive. Have you ever even been in a 200whp honda? or even 160whp? you're not being pratical.
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i don't know enough about turboing to turbo at least i have most knowledge for an n/a build.. i feel i shouldn't do anything that i can't explain to someone else why i do and and how it works... also turboing a crx involves more than just the turbo setup, head work, radiator, crossmember,
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Re: (rewerbcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rewerbcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't know enough about turboing to turbo at least i have most knowledge for an n/a build.. i feel i shouldn't do anything that i can't explain to someone else why i do and and how it works... also turboing a crx involves more than just the turbo setup, head work, radiator, crossmember, </TD></TR></TABLE>
no offense but you dont have knowledge about allmotor if you think you can hit 250whp with a stock bore,and a b18a engine..Not happening,no way..
no offense but you dont have knowledge about allmotor if you think you can hit 250whp with a stock bore,and a b18a engine..Not happening,no way..
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (office888)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by office888 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's kind of an issue. To get that kind of horsepower with an NA motor, you'd need wicked compression which would be HORRIBLE for a turbocharged motor.
I'd say build for turbo.
Stock Compression Pistons, Just Forged Instead
Blockguards are great, just make sure you get one that's quality.
Eagle H-Beam rods should be sufficient?
Stock oil pump is fine for MOST applications, Upgrade if you want the added comfort.
1000cc fuel injectors so the sky's the limit for boost.
Venom or AEM. Both make decent high-flow fuel rails.
Just my 2 cents.
---richard</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont listen to this guy he knows nothing
For 250 whp just buy a walbro and dsm 440s. block guards are the worst invention off all time and we all know a stock block can produce 300+whp safely
That's kind of an issue. To get that kind of horsepower with an NA motor, you'd need wicked compression which would be HORRIBLE for a turbocharged motor.
I'd say build for turbo.
Stock Compression Pistons, Just Forged Instead
Blockguards are great, just make sure you get one that's quality.
Eagle H-Beam rods should be sufficient?
Stock oil pump is fine for MOST applications, Upgrade if you want the added comfort.
1000cc fuel injectors so the sky's the limit for boost.
Venom or AEM. Both make decent high-flow fuel rails.
Just my 2 cents.
---richard</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont listen to this guy he knows nothing
For 250 whp just buy a walbro and dsm 440s. block guards are the worst invention off all time and we all know a stock block can produce 300+whp safely
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (rewerbcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rewerbcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18a1 engine....
i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing</TD></TR></TABLE>
keep wishing.
i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing</TD></TR></TABLE>
keep wishing.
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rewerbcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no offfense taken ....
knowledge to build... and the mechanics of it... omg your reply was not needed, helpfull things are appreciated and i also said 250 or as close to it as possible ...
its alright i know you missed that whole part </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can help you get to 200whp with the stock bore and on pump gas..would you be happy with that? ive done a shitload of 200whp lsvec's already for people and the setup is simple and has consistent power.
no offfense taken ....
knowledge to build... and the mechanics of it... omg your reply was not needed, helpfull things are appreciated and i also said 250 or as close to it as possible ...
its alright i know you missed that whole part </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can help you get to 200whp with the stock bore and on pump gas..would you be happy with that? ive done a shitload of 200whp lsvec's already for people and the setup is simple and has consistent power.
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (mr.speaker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on an LS motor???
highest i have seen is like 180whp with a lot of work and tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean with a vtec head.
highest i have seen is like 180whp with a lot of work and tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean with a vtec head.
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (mr.speaker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr.speaker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mean with a vtec head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh, well yeah.
not sure if you posted it earlier or not. i read the first post and determined i needed to search google for a genie in a bottle.
oh, well yeah.
not sure if you posted it earlier or not. i read the first post and determined i needed to search google for a genie in a bottle.
Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on an LS motor???
highest i have seen is like 180whp with a lot of work and tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you can make 300whp so easy under 1000 bucks with a turbo
highest i have seen is like 180whp with a lot of work and tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you can make 300whp so easy under 1000 bucks with a turbo
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (Boosted Chemist)
i didnt think turbo charging was in the cards.... as the original post states:
"b18a1 engine....
i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing"
"b18a1 engine....
i want to gain as close as possible to 250 whp without turboing"
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you can make 300whp so easy under 1000 bucks with a turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
This character has something against turbocharging it seems.
you can make 300whp so easy under 1000 bucks with a turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
This character has something against turbocharging it seems.
Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (mr.speaker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr.speaker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This character has something against turbocharging it seems.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He needs to let his ***** drop and be a man. Honestly for the goals, turbo is the best way. There is just too many people that dont know what they are talking about when it come to boost in the ef forums (not intended towards you)
This character has something against turbocharging it seems.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He needs to let his ***** drop and be a man. Honestly for the goals, turbo is the best way. There is just too many people that dont know what they are talking about when it come to boost in the ef forums (not intended towards you)
Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some people just like the characteristics of an N/A car though. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Some men prefer to marry other men.
Some men prefer to marry other men.
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (Boosted Chemist)
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Some men prefer to marry other men.
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">keep your personal life off of H-T. 
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**** man, i get more ***** than a gynecologist
</TD></TR></TABLE>**** man, i get more ***** than a gynecologist
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Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** man, i get more ***** than a gynecologist</TD></TR></TABLE>
not all woman at the gyno are hot.
that's a gross job.
think about it.... out of 10,000 old skanky broads maybe one hot chick walks in.
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not all woman at the gyno are hot.
that's a gross job. think about it.... out of 10,000 old skanky broads maybe one hot chick walks in.
page owned, officially thread jacked!
edit: someone edited their post. DAMN IT!
Re: n/a----> possible turbo help with the na part (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not all woman at the gyno are hot. that's a gross job.
think about it.... out of 10,000 old skanky broads maybe one hot chick walks in.
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true, but how do u know, did u just get your vag checked out And now page owned
not all woman at the gyno are hot.
that's a gross job. think about it.... out of 10,000 old skanky broads maybe one hot chick walks in.
page owned, officially thread jacked! </TD></TR></TABLE>
true, but how do u know, did u just get your vag checked out
And now page owned