hankook ventus z212
has anyone used these tires before? they are said to be a street/track tire according to the website they any good, bad? better then azenis? im planning on using them for street/track...wanted to get some opinions if any about them before buying them
http://www.hankooktireusa.com/...id=86
http://www.hankooktireusa.com/...id=86
They are good tires but the Azenis RT-615 are stickier.
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! The Z212 are not as good as the azenis in the dry but are better in the rain!
Either way if you are looking for a track tire do you really nead wet performance!
Also these tires do not have great tread life. I would go with the Azenis RT-615, you will appreciate it at the track!
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! The Z212 are not as good as the azenis in the dry but are better in the rain!
Either way if you are looking for a track tire do you really nead wet performance!
Also these tires do not have great tread life. I would go with the Azenis RT-615, you will appreciate it at the track!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are good tires but the Azenis RT-615 are stickier.
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! The Z212 are not as good as the azenis in the dry but are better in the rain!
Either way if you are looking for a track tire do you really nead wet performance!
Also these tires do not have great tread life. I would go with the Azenis RT-615, you will appreciate it at the track!</TD></TR></TABLE>
And so does Grassroots Motorsports.
If you ONLY care about dry traction, get the Azenis.
If you also care about wet traction and/or treadlife, you would be better off with the Kumho Ecsta SPT or the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 (both offer excellent wet traction and treadlife; the SPT costs a lot less, while the GS-D3 offers higher performance, wet and dry, than the SPT or the Z212).
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! The Z212 are not as good as the azenis in the dry but are better in the rain!
Either way if you are looking for a track tire do you really nead wet performance!
Also these tires do not have great tread life. I would go with the Azenis RT-615, you will appreciate it at the track!</TD></TR></TABLE>
And so does Grassroots Motorsports.If you ONLY care about dry traction, get the Azenis.
If you also care about wet traction and/or treadlife, you would be better off with the Kumho Ecsta SPT or the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 (both offer excellent wet traction and treadlife; the SPT costs a lot less, while the GS-D3 offers higher performance, wet and dry, than the SPT or the Z212).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecsi00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but the hankook was definitely much better in the rain</TD></TR></TABLE>
but overall a very good tire
but overall a very good tire
[QUOTE=DaveSi677]
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! QUOTE]
that's not quite true
what about Yokohama Advan Neova? 180 treadwear
only thing is it's mostly 17" and 18" sizes
and Pirelli P Zero System. 140 treadwear
and available in a 345/35ZR15 for Lamborghini countach fitment
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! QUOTE]
that's not quite true
what about Yokohama Advan Neova? 180 treadwear
only thing is it's mostly 17" and 18" sizes
and Pirelli P Zero System. 140 treadwear
and available in a 345/35ZR15 for Lamborghini countach fitment
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's not quite true</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, it is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about Yokohama Advan Neova?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not as sticky. Again, not just my opinion, but also that of Grassroots Motorsports. Did you read their side-by-side comparison test (see link above)?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only thing is it's mostly 17" and 18" sizes</TD></TR></TABLE>
That too.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and Pirelli P Zero System.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not as sticky.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">140 treadwear</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just because a tire has a lower numerical treadwear rating, doesn't mean it's stickier. Especially when another tire (e.g. Azenis) might be labeled with an artificially-high treadwear rating to enable it to be used in certain competition classes which require a treadwear rating of 200 or higher.
Yes, it is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about Yokohama Advan Neova?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not as sticky. Again, not just my opinion, but also that of Grassroots Motorsports. Did you read their side-by-side comparison test (see link above)?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only thing is it's mostly 17" and 18" sizes</TD></TR></TABLE>
That too.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and Pirelli P Zero System.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not as sticky.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">140 treadwear</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just because a tire has a lower numerical treadwear rating, doesn't mean it's stickier. Especially when another tire (e.g. Azenis) might be labeled with an artificially-high treadwear rating to enable it to be used in certain competition classes which require a treadwear rating of 200 or higher.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wear ratings vary widely between manufacturers and even within a brand. Using the treadwear rating is definitely not a good way to gauge tire performance.
Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>
VERY TRUE.. mot a good way at all
Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>
VERY TRUE.. mot a good way at all
there are a lot of comparsion out there for hankook z212 and azenis rt615, and i've used both of these tires for hpde, and i'm sticking to hankook z212!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gakkuken »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are a lot of comparsion out there for hankook z212 and azenis rt615, and i've used both of these tires for hpde, and i'm sticking to hankook z212!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then you are one of the very, very few. Of everyone I know who has tried both - and I know many such folks - almost all of them prefer the Azenis.
Then you are one of the very, very few. Of everyone I know who has tried both - and I know many such folks - almost all of them prefer the Azenis.
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