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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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has anyone used these tires before? they are said to be a street/track tire according to the website they any good, bad? better then azenis? im planning on using them for street/track...wanted to get some opinions if any about them before buying them

http://www.hankooktireusa.com/...id=86
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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They are good tires but the Azenis RT-615 are stickier.

The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! The Z212 are not as good as the azenis in the dry but are better in the rain!

Either way if you are looking for a track tire do you really nead wet performance!

Also these tires do not have great tread life. I would go with the Azenis RT-615, you will appreciate it at the track!
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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i have had both tires and the hankook was pretty comparable to the azenis in dry but not as good but the hankook was definitely much better in the rain
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are good tires but the Azenis RT-615 are stickier.

The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! The Z212 are not as good as the azenis in the dry but are better in the rain!

Either way if you are looking for a track tire do you really nead wet performance!

Also these tires do not have great tread life. I would go with the Azenis RT-615, you will appreciate it at the track!</TD></TR></TABLE>

And so does Grassroots Motorsports.

If you ONLY care about dry traction, get the Azenis.

If you also care about wet traction and/or treadlife, you would be better off with the Kumho Ecsta SPT or the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 (both offer excellent wet traction and treadlife; the SPT costs a lot less, while the GS-D3 offers higher performance, wet and dry, than the SPT or the Z212).
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecsi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but the hankook was definitely much better in the rain</TD></TR></TABLE>
but overall a very good tire

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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no complaints from me about the hankook's
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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[QUOTE=DaveSi677]
The Azenis is the stickiest street tire, in fact its the closest thing to a R compound! QUOTE]

that's not quite true

what about Yokohama Advan Neova? 180 treadwear
only thing is it's mostly 17" and 18" sizes

and Pirelli P Zero System. 140 treadwear
and available in a 345/35ZR15 for Lamborghini countach fitment
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's not quite true</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it is.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about Yokohama Advan Neova?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not as sticky. Again, not just my opinion, but also that of Grassroots Motorsports. Did you read their side-by-side comparison test (see link above)?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only thing is it's mostly 17" and 18" sizes</TD></TR></TABLE>

That too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and Pirelli P Zero System.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not as sticky.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">140 treadwear</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because a tire has a lower numerical treadwear rating, doesn't mean it's stickier. Especially when another tire (e.g. Azenis) might be labeled with an artificially-high treadwear rating to enable it to be used in certain competition classes which require a treadwear rating of 200 or higher.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Wear ratings vary widely between manufacturers and even within a brand. Using the treadwear rating is definitely not a good way to gauge tire performance.

Jon
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wear ratings vary widely between manufacturers and even within a brand. Using the treadwear rating is definitely not a good way to gauge tire performance.

Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>

VERY TRUE.. mot a good way at all
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Default Re: hankook ventus z212 (TokuiAutowerks)

there are a lot of comparsion out there for hankook z212 and azenis rt615, and i've used both of these tires for hpde, and i'm sticking to hankook z212!
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gakkuken &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are a lot of comparsion out there for hankook z212 and azenis rt615, and i've used both of these tires for hpde, and i'm sticking to hankook z212!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you are one of the very, very few. Of everyone I know who has tried both - and I know many such folks - almost all of them prefer the Azenis.
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