Whats the point of buying a after market short shifter when you can hack off 1-2 inches on ur stock shifter

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLUE EH3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the point of buying a after market short shifter when you can hack off 1-2 inches on ur stock shifter</TD></TR></TABLE>

hacking off your stock shifter will not make it a short shifter..it'll make it short but the throw distance will still be the same..

 

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WOWWWWW thats all i got to say

 

how?

 

a short throw isn't too expensive if you can't afford don't attempt to make one

 

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r u serious

 

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the distance between the pivot point and the linkage is longer on a shortshift. Got little to do with how long the actual lever is (to a certain extent)

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Modified by DeadEnd9009 at 5:25 PM 1/22/2007

 

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WOWWWWW thats all i got to say </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Holy crap.

How'd you get 5000 posts.

 

lol seriously if you've been watching the posts that this guy has made the past 2 years you will be stonefaced

 

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Oh ****, I feel like I need to make an entrance here.

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the distance between the pivot point and the linkage is shorter on a shortshift. Got little to do with how long the actual lever is (to a certain extent) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the fulcrum is higher on a short shifter, making it less distance to shift.

Though if you're just going for looks, hacking off and re-threading is fine...

 

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actually, it's longer

 

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actually, it's longer </TD></TR></TABLE>

Zing.

 

The desired effect of a short shifter is to reduce the distance your hand needs to move to engage the next gear, thus reducing the amount of time spent shifting, reducing wasted time between shifts, and resulting in improved performance. A common misconception in the tuning world is that a short shifter is just a chopped off version of the stock shifter. In fact, chopping your shifter has no effect on the angle that your shifter shaft travels through between gears and therefore does not reduce the shifter's angular throw.

A true short shifter decreases throw by reducing the angle that the shifter shaft travels through during its stroke between gears. By reducing the angle that the shaft travels through between gears, the distance that your hand needs to move between gears is also reduced. In many cases, the shifter shaft is also re-designed to be shorter than stock thus creating a sportier look and feel, as well as aiding in reducing the linear throw length when coupled with the reduced angular throw.

The geometry of a short shifter differs from the stock shifter in order to reduce the distance that the upper section where your shift **** threads on needs to move to achieve the same degree of movement in the lower section where the shift rod or shifter cables attach. This ensures that although your hand is moving a shorter distance, the transmission is still fully engaged in every gear. The main pivot point, or fulcrum of the shifter lever is re-positioned on the shaft in such a way that the lower section which connects to the shift rod or shifter cables is longer than stock, resulting in the desired effect. A TWM short shifter is carefully designed to create the optimal throw length, angular shift throw, and shift **** height resulting in the ultimate short shifter.

The end result is a shorter, more precise shift, which requires a shorter hand movement to engage the next gear, and looks and feels sportier than the unsightly long shifter shaft most cars come stock with.


this guy has 5k posts and he is asking this? i hope its a joke

 

Hey.

I am living, walking, breathing proof that 5000 posts don't mean you know anything .

EDIT:
I hate when pple describe short shifters as LONGER from the linkage to the fulcrum.

In my opinion it's easier to describe it as the fulcrum just being located higher up (closer to the handle)

EDIT2:
If you actually get into the physics of it, cutting your shift handle and re-threading it WILL give you a shorter throw.

I'm not sure you will notice it, but it will be there when you're talking about mm's and tenths of mm's.

I guess you get the same effect by grabbing the shifter at the base (where it meets the console) - though it still doesn't come near that of the noticeable shorter distance of a short throw.

 

Lol, my friend did this and laughed at me when I told him I paid $130 for my Forbidden Motorsports SS.

 

i would laugh at you too if you blew 130 bucks on a shifter. to me short shifters are a waste of money. stock feels just fine.

 

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Sounds like you haven't owned a skunk2 shifter with skunk2 **** and es bushings all around.

 

ok, so do any of you have an ebay short shifter on your EK? i see them for like 7 bucks on there, i know "you pay for what you get" just curious if anyone has had one versus a brand name.

 

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Holmes, spend $120 and get some sexy shifter, you'll be much happier. Don't forget when changing your shifter you should swap out you b00shings too. ES bushings are teh SEX.

 

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My Forbidden SS is the best mod I ever bought for my Accord. The throw is shorter than an S2000 and feels perfect, even though it's a hydro tranny.

 

How much was that?

I might have to get one

 

$130, well worth it.
http://www.forbiddenmotorsport...ccord

 

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you just said that and your 24??

 

my $20 SS off ebay has worked great for the past 3 years.