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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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I saw these two pics of DC2 clusters installed in some CRXs and as far as i can tell they are both 90-91s and they don't seem to be civics either. One cluster is cut off much more noticebly than the other and I cant' see why (unless I am blind and just missing something), does anybody know what the deal is here?? I am on the fence as to buy a USDM ITR cluster, I have an EK Si but I don't like the fitment and if the Type R fits better then that is the route I'll take.



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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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from the looks of it the type r fits worse, but i dont see how its possible
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pee Wee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from the looks of it the type r fits worse, but i dont see how its possible</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what i'm sayin?? I just don't get it, the clusters gotta be the same dimensions.???
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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2 explanations:

- angle/distance of the pictures
- one cluster could be set back farther than the other
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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2 explanations... top trim is from a 91 crx...bottom 88 crx trim....91 crx's had a wider cluster trim..correct me if im wrong....
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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ow yea....top pic u dont see the emergency switch ( 91 ) botom pic the switch is one the colum....( sorry 4 the spelling )
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4dOoR-Ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2 explanations... top trim is from a 91 crx...bottom 88 crx trim....91 crx's had a wider cluster trim..correct me if im wrong....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Both of those cluster hoods are '90-91 CRX pieces.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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if your talking about the 4 ways button then the top one is just out of the picture you can see the outline of it.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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to me it doesnt look like a civic
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rockenuptown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to me it doesnt look like a civic</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah . . . because it's a CRX.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Well so far, we have established what I have already figured out, 90-91 cluster hoods on both (CRXs, not civics)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
- one cluster could be set back farther than the other</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought of that but the pic is clear enough to show pretty good detail, It can't really be set farther back just because of the design of the dash. There is no way it is just different angles that makes them look so far off. Maybe the poster of the original pics will chime in and help clear this up??
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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looks like one of those guys probably used a heat gun to soften the plastic bezel, and open it up more for the integra cluster. I know someone who did exactly that so that it didn't cut off the guages on the edges.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike-y &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like one of those guys probably used a heat gun to soften the plastic bezel, and open it up more for the integra cluster. I know someone who did exactly that so that it didn't cut off the guages on the edges.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Maybe....but It does not look warped at all and I can't see being able to move it THAT far without any signs of distortion. Most DIYers would not have that kinda skill which makes it less likely (though not impossible, so who knows). I am not really satisfied w/ that answer though, I am thinking there is more too this than just a heat gun.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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it's just the angle of the pictures and the distance of the camera. since the gauges are still set an inch or so back from the edge of the hood, it adds an optical illusion type effect, making things seem much wackier in the bottom picture than in the top. I had this problem when I was mocking up a prelude cluster in a 90-91 hood... up close it looked fine, but when I set it up actual distance and moved my head around, it looked like it fit terribly.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Are you brain-dead? The car itself doesn't matter. They are both using '90-91 CRX cluster hoods. The '88-89 cluster hoods look completely different, and to my knowledge won't even fit around an Integra cluster.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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oK i have both hoods. 88 is more rectangle and 91 is round. In the pic is 91
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you brain-dead? The car itself doesn't matter. They are both using '90-91 CRX cluster hoods. The '88-89 cluster hoods look completely different, and to my knowledge won't even fit around an Integra cluster.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're correct...88-89 hood won't fit anything integra. It's too small and square-ish.
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Simple...first pic is a 90-91 crx or civic hatch...2nd pic is an 88 or 89 with a 90-91 dash swap. 2nd thing that gives the dash swap away is the lack of heater controls...crx's had vacuum controls, hatch's had cables/levers.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:19 AM
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I have a 2000 civic si cluster in my 88std. I would post pictures but I don't know how to use we-todd-did-racing now.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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use http://www.tinypic.com - It works better anyway and you dont have to register just upload the pic it gives you a link and post it here
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by steronz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's just the angle of the pictures and the distance of the camera. since the gauges are still set an inch or so back from the edge of the hood, it adds an optical illusion type effect, making things seem much wackier in the bottom picture than in the top. I had this problem when I was mocking up a prelude cluster in a 90-91 hood... up close it looked fine, but when I set it up actual distance and moved my head around, it looked like it fit terribly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That just does not sit with me, the angles are WAY to off to justify that theory. if a heat gun would have been used to stretch the cluster hood THAT much it would have looked more distorted, the edges still look perfect though in the picture.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you brain-dead? The car itself doesn't matter. They are both using '90-91 CRX cluster hoods. The '88-89 cluster hoods look completely different, and to my knowledge won't even fit around an Integra cluster.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, I guess some people just read the first post and then just scroll to the bottom and post.??........idiots
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Maybe the corners have been ground and opened up, that's what i did with my 93 gsr cluster...possibly he did a really good job? Plus the picture is a little dark
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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dunno where it is but he explains how he got to look so good just dont remember where it was
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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haha the needles are different colors....makes it look different but the first one fits really good
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