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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Im in the Jersey area currently. Cars are stolen almost every other day here. My sisters pimped out LS was recently stolen here but recovered fairly quickly. She had the Viper 2Way Alarm which was expensive.....but car was still stolen. For everyone that had their car jacked in the past, did you guys have any kind aftermarket Alarm/Security systems?? tell us your stories.

My sisters story: Car was parked in the lot of our apt. Car is always in view b/c where only on 2nd floor. Also, our room windows are next to the lot. During the night time....this is when the car was gone. She gives me a ride to work every morning at 7am and car was gone. We did not hear any alarm go off at night. We know her doors were locked b/c door locks automatically in 30 sec after ignition is off. sad day!
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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nobody??
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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they probobly cut the wires.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Thats the thing. The wires were prolly cut but how? How do they cut the wires if the hood is shut?? Did they open the door or break the glass?? If so I would have heard the alarm. Alarm is super sensitive. Pisses me off cuz of false alarms.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMjukie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats the thing. The wires were prolly cut but how? How do they cut the wires if the hood is shut?? Did they open the door or break the glass?? If so I would have heard the alarm. Alarm is super sensitive. Pisses me off cuz of false alarms.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My imagination.. i think they probably jammed something between the hood pop it open and cut the wires?
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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improper install. Siren in the engine bay were it can be easly gotten to. People put the siren in the fender! I can pop any teg or honda hoods with out setting off the alarm with out a hood pin. Make sure your car has a hood pin. This will set a instant trigger of the alarm system. Back up battery? If no. They popped the hood cut the siren and disconnected the battery. Then jumped in your car and and did there magic to drive your car away. Not realy magic to break a steering colume. A back up battery would of kept the siren going off if they unpluged the battery. As soon as the battery is disconnected it set the alarm to full trigger. And with the siren in the fender they can't shut it off. Now this leads us to were the alarm brain is. If it was just set under neath the dash were a theif could just get his hands to, The car was never really proctected at all. Even with all the things listed above it won't matter if he just unpluged it. You could spend 1k on a alarm system and it won't mean a thing if its installed incorrectly. I see it all the time as a installer/owner. Its not hard to keep your car safe. Just time and money no matter what anybody says. Sorry to see it happen to you. When you get your car back please take my advice and watch it pay off. You might have a broken colume but hey your car will be there.

Come check out our thread in the car audio/security section.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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My old car got stolen. I had a chip install so they track it and busted a chop shop. My car was totaly striped down.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:38 AM
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You can always relocated the hood latch cable.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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layers... thats' the best security... my car won't turn over if they try and start it, no matter what....obviously i can't give away the secret, cuz then someone will jack my ride... but the only way anyone could steal it is to tow it, & let me see someone in my front seat trying to start my car or tow it.. ha ha... i fkn bet!!! they got away with my teg while on i was on vac... but my crx!?!? they better have medical coverage...
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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yeah, improper/lazy install.

when my car was stolen a few years back in my buildings "private" parking garage. they broke through and exit door to get in, and then they cut the front grill on the bumper to pop the hood on my car. They then snipped the wires to the alarm horn.

that allowed them to get into the car without much noise. Once in, they went under the dash, and basically "uninstalled" the alarm brain and starter kill solinoid. Then they broke the ignition to start the car. They also broke into another car in the parking garage to get a remote, so they could drive out the gate.

My car was found 3 days later, completely stripped.


So, just remember, an alarm doesn't do much good if it isn't installed well. you need to hide the siren somewhere that is hard to find and difficult to get to. you also need to hide the alarm brain somewhere that is very hard to get to as well. And I also recommend some sort of secondary kill switch in addition to the alarm system.

In the end, you can only do so much, because if someone wants your car that badly, they'll find a way to get it (like tow it away). But most likely, it will have to be a pro. If you take some extra steps when installing your alarm system, you can deter a lot of punk theives that are just looking for an "easy" score or joyride.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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^^^^^ well said. Gps units are a way to go nowadays. I can't stress that enough. Let them tow it if they can. Just track it right back. Once people start stepping up to the bat on there security. We could put a dent on the theft going on. Until them these theives are going to run rampet on our cars. I know I took 7 off the street thanks to gps. Others too
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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good info....you sound like a professional yourself
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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dude.. no security system will save your car.. if someone wants your car they will get it... maybe if you invested in gps.. but your car will be gone before you know it.. by the time you get to call ur car in its probably already stripped and out on the road somewhere
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I know I took 7 off the street thanks to gps. Others too </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awesome. Good work!
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litovi3tboi503 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude.. no security system will save your car.. if someone wants your car they will get it... maybe if you invested in gps.. but your car will be gone before you know it.. by the time you get to call ur car in its probably already stripped and out on the road somewhere</TD></TR></TABLE>
well at least you find your car right away with the gps. and it wont always be fully stripped already.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John 07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good info....you sound like a professional yourself</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you, I am. I been doing this for 15 years.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litovi3tboi503 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude.. no security system will save your car.. if someone wants your car they will get it... maybe if you invested in gps.. but your car will be gone before you know it.. by the time you get to call ur car in its probably already stripped and out on the road somewhere</TD></TR></TABLE>

Spoken like a true champ with a swapmeet install or a car theif making a joke. Take it how you want it It people like you that make others beleive that no matter what they do there car will be taken. Its a bucket of B.S. You have no facts or the know how to keep your car safe. You don't know half of what it takes to do so. I know 20 members on here that cars can not be stolen or towed. Tow it and be busted. If people feel like him its a sad day because there are ways. What is your background on alarm system and experiance that you can put your name on that will back your post.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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I dont fully beleive litovi3tboi503.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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Hey Sti Killer, what is a hood pin..is it for security? How does a hood pin trigger the alarm? doesnt the alarm have to be hooked up to the hood pin in order for it to go off? Im confused on this one. Also, where can hood pins be bought?
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMjukie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Sti Killer, what is a hood pin..is it for security? How does a hood pin trigger the alarm? doesnt the alarm have to be hooked up to the hood pin in order for it to go off? Im confused on this one. Also, where can hood pins be bought?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hood pin = alarm sensor that goes off when the hood is open.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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I'll send you a free one if you pay for shipping. And yes it has to be hooked up to the alarm.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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If I get hood pins, doesnt that mean anyone can open my hood from the outside of the car?? I dont see the security in that. Maybe im missing something??
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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I just saw some pics of car with hood pins and dont really like the look. I think im going to have to go wtih a hood latch relocate. Also, isnt it possible to hook up the alarm to the factory hood, so when its opened the alarm goes off?? i also read that theives can open the hood without making the alarm go off. How is this possible....... freakin theives make me think too much and spend lots of money!!!! Arrgggg
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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you guys are thinking of the wrong type of "hood pins". The type most commonly associated with alarm systems is actually a "pin switch" that is installed under the hood of the car and is pushed in when the hood is closed on top of it.

when you pop the hood, the pin switch pops up, and sounds the alarm.

The other type of hood pins are like what you see on race cars for composite lightweight hoods. Those are to secure the hood to the chassis. But you can also get locking hood pins, so that you can lock the hood with a key when it is closed.


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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Ok now im really confused. hood pins?? Pin switch?? Very confused??
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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well they can both be called hood pins...

1) there's an alarm sensor that senses if the hood is open or not. Can also be referred to as a hood pin switch I guess.

2) There are hood pins that are used to secure things like carbon fiber hoods down. They are just little metal things that keep the hood down.
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