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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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I'm terrible when it comes to reading/understanding/comprehending wiring instructions so I prefer a diagram or something lol.

I searched and had no luck on finding a diagram of some sort of how to wire a rear fog light. All I found was pictures and a link to where to buy one . And yes I already read that rear fog information thread archived.

I want the one that mounts into the rear bumper and is connected to a switch. NOT the one that is integrated into the taillight or any other type. Also is going on the USDM driver side (left).

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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So across 3 forums, only came across 1 diagram someone was nice enough to send to me. It doesn't make sense to me but I'll work through it lol.

Anyone?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Post the diagram, I'll see if I can help.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Such gibberish to me haha.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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That's really easy.

The three poles on the switch go to:

1: Ground
2: Relay (Double Pole/Double Throw)
3: Fused 12v ignition-based wire (under-dash fusebox)

The relay goes to:

86 - Switch
85 - Ground
30 - 12v Constant
87 - Power to Lamp

Then ground the other wire from the lamp.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Such gibberish to me haha.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The diagram is very easy to understand.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Haha sorry guys. I only took 1 electrical/wire type course and that was in 6th grade and it was a very generic course. And in general, I don't normally deal with wires and electrical stuff.

Now Eran, to clear some things up:
1. By poles, you mean the prongs on the back of the switch? If so, is there any way I'd be able to wire it up to an OEM switch? The place where I want to buy the foglight comes with a switch that resembles the OEM switch for front fogs.

2. Where would I find such a relay?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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You can get a relay at Radio Shack, DPDT.

And yes, you can wire it to the OEM switch, you just have to know what wires from the switch do what.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Gotcha.

Now when it comes to "plugging" the wires so to speak into the OEM switch, how would I go about doing that? I know for the front foglights, a piece of the harness has a connector that mates with the foglight switch. Would I have to ghetto rig my own "connector pin" or w/e?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Spade connectors will work, but soldering is ideal.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Alrighty. Thanks man. Eran to the rescue again .

Any other diagrams/pictures are still helpful!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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lets try and set it up nice and clean...

do you have front fog lights?

Are the front fog lights aftermarket? meaning not OEM-Installed

IF they are aftermarket front fog lights.. you could use the same line that the front fog lights use... and just tap into it... now of course this would increase the power draw.. and might blow the fuse quicker...it depends on how much power the extra bulb needs...

click the link in my sig...

now what you can do is just add another relay and wire it up just like the front relay, but instead of the power going to the front foglights it goes to the rear, and draws power from the other (BAT) accessory locations...

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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I have OEM fogs. Genuine Honda OEM fogs.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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I have an OEM relay you can use.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1505528
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Still looking for any other types of diagrams.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Still looking for any other types of diagrams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can't see why, the diagram you posted up was pretty spot-on.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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You honestly don't need a relay for a rear fog. The single 21 watt bulb draws less than 2 amps. You can just connect the positive lead of the rear fog to the positive lead of one of your front fogs, and put the switch in-line. Then ground the lamp near the rear bumper. It doesn't get much simpler.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Actually I remember something...

Spoke to NYCFox or whatever on ClubCivic because he has this is and this is what he said:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do have the switch, but the thing is that its a JDM or Euro thing so theres two problems..One, the switch doesnt have a harness in the car. the car has a USDM switch for the fog light with a USDM harness but not for this rear fog..Honda may be able to help you but its a long shot..I wired my fog to the parking lights, so when I turn my lights on one click it goes on with the rear tail lights.

The other problem is we have USDM bumpers with a USDM bump guard behind the bumpers so that doesnt work with the bracket..I have to rig it in there after cutting that part of the bump stop..</TD></TR></TABLE>

So oh well but I'm not giving up yet.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You honestly don't need a relay for a rear fog. The single 21 watt bulb draws less than 2 amps. You can just connect the positive lead of the rear fog to the positive lead of one of your front fogs, and put the switch in-line. Then ground the lamp near the rear bumper. It doesn't get much simpler. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What you're describing to me sounds like you're telling me to wire in the rear fog with the front fog so they both turn on with 1 switch? If that's the case, I don't want that.

I want the rear fog completely on it's own switch and power. Why? Because I use my front fogs every night for more visibility in general and the rear fog would be used only in low visibility weather conditions.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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No, I'm not saying to wire them both to one switch. What I meant was to draw the power for the rear fog from the front fogs, and then put a switch in the rear fog's power lead.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Now that bpr0422 guy higher up in this thread mentioned that would increase the power draw and might blow the fuse quicker...

Didn't understand the rest of what he said tho lol...
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now that bpr0422 guy higher up in this thread mentioned that would increase the power draw and might blow the fuse quicker...</TD></TR></TABLE>

It won't. As I said, it's less than a 2 amp draw. You can switch the fog light fuse to one that has a 5 amp greater rating, but it shouldn't be necessary.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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what is the bulb # for the OEM rear fog, anyone know?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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An 1156 or P21W will work.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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which side is it "supposed" to go on? I've seen it on right and left sides, on right and left hand driven vehicles. left on left, and vice-versa. anyone? j/w...thought of doing this, and figured i'd most likely just put it on my driver's side.
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