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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Default Help ASAP --> 96 Integra w/B20 Swap. Engine will NOT turn over.

just finishing a B20 swap in my friends 96 Integra. Everything is OBD2. The distributor is an OBD2 Single plug. I converted the harness which had 2 plugs going to the distributor to accept the single plug on the B20 distributor. I matched all the wires up and used the small red connetors. Every wire is tight and in their right spot.

It is getting fuel. But will NOT turn over when trying to start. What is the problem?

I don't think the starter is jammed.

Im pretty sure I bleed the clutch right. It's stiff and feels like the clutch is fully disengaged with the pedal in.

I've tried jumping the battery thinking it might be dead, but that didnt work either.

I need help asap!!!!

Everything is hooked up and ready to go.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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is the sensor for the clutch hooked up right?
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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got spark? pull out a plug, plug it into the wire and crank the car and see if you can get spark from the plug to jump a valve cover stud
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zachlange &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the sensor for the clutch hooked up right? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think so.. its only 1 plug on the front of the transmission?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kiddcarbuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">got spark? pull out a plug, plug it into the wire and crank the car and see if you can get spark from the plug to jump a valve cover stud</TD></TR></TABLE>

It wont even turn over, so no spark.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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would a non working dizzy cause the engine not to crank?
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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hey, whats up kris. can you hear the engine try to turn over? or when you turn the key...absolutely nothing happens? if nothing happens at all(doesnt even try) try taking the starter to autozone, they have a little machine that can test it.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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ya i did.. i took the starter and the battery both to autozone and they tested both and charged the battery and they are both good. I know its in the wiring for sure. his car is a wiring mess from the previous owners. Or it might be in the distributor because I had to convert the plug on the wiring harness for the distributor from obd2a to obd2b. Hopefully I can get it running soon. Everything is installed right, just have to trouble shoot the wiring issues..

but anymore help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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make sure u have spark....if u dont try the ignition module...in the distributor.. make sure the cylinders are not flooded with gas....then it will definitely not turn over.....take out the plugs and take out the ecu fuse...crank the engine so all the extra gas leaves the cylinders in case its flooded
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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the engine ran perfect before it was pulled.

im pretty sure its either in the dizzy or the car's wiring.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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+1 for wiring.....
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the engine ran perfect before it was pulled.

im pretty sure its either in the dizzy or the car's wiring. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if you colormatched the wires perfectly, i dont see the problem with the distributor. try swapping out the ignitor and/or the coil.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Check the ground wire to the motor. The starter will not engage without a proper ground from the motor to the chassis. Here are a few basic things to check: Wire from battery to starter - should have +12V when measured from this to ground, signal wire to starter - should be +12 when the key is turned to "start", and ground. There really isn't much else required for the starter to spin. Here's an easy test - if you short the signal tab to your +12V source (with a screwdriver or something, but be careful not to touch ground!) your starter should spin. Everything else related to spark, fuel, air, etc. will not affect the starter's ability to turn. Hope this helps
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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well when i did the in car starter test and ran a wire from the positive battery terminal to the little connector on the starter with the key in the ON position, it still didn't spin.

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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sounds like a ground problem then if that didn't work..<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well when i did the in car starter test and ran a wire from the positive battery terminal to the little connector on the starter with the key in the ON position, it still didn't spin. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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i know this sounds simple but it usually always is something simple, check the battery cables and make sure they're tight. check all the main ground wires and make sure they're tight.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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ya i know its probably something simple, but i've checked everything, and its all tight, but i could be wrong. the kid's car is a wiring mess.. ill post a pic so you can all see what im talking about..

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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relocated battery? or a old pic? hmm, did you check the main fuses in the fuse box, are the 2 wires from the engine harness screwed into the fuse box? sorry man i can't think of anything else. Maybe try to find someone who can loan you their distributor and repin the harness back to normal and see what happens. good luck bro
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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hook up all the ground cables. if theres almost no ground cables the starter wont turn the engine over.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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just no battery in that pic. wires are hooked up in the fuse box and tight. all the fuses are in.

I have the old distributor that is in that pic and am going to try switching them out tomorrow.

I'm gonna be checking all the ground wires again, but just give me all the ones that need to be hooked up.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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The motor must be grounded to the body. Typically there's a short wire bolted from the front of the head to the radiator support or on the tranny. It really doesn't matter where, just as long as a ground exists.

If you just want to test, connect a jumper cable from the chassis (or even directly to the negative post of the battery, which should be connected to chassis ground anyway) to a good metal spot on the motor. This should give a good ground to test.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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well the ground from the valve cover to the rad support is there, frame to the tranny is there, and the ecu to the thermostat is there.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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hook up the battery straight to the starter and see if it powers on and cranks like it should. that should atleast eliminate the starter as a culprit or make it obvious if thats the problem
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just no battery in that pic. wires are hooked up in the fuse box and tight. all the fuses are in.

I have the old distributor that is in that pic and am going to try switching them out tomorrow.
I'm gonna be checking all the ground wires again, but just give me all the ones that need to be hooked up.

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im not positive but pretty certain the a vtec distributor wont fit.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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it mite help to plug the main harness into everything
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