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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Default No Reverse, 01 lude, manual 5spd!! please help!!!!!!!!!

it started when i lifted my front seat up, got something outta the back seat.
the seat always goes to a differnt spot when you fold it back again.

so, make a long story short, when i re-adjusted my seat, it was a notch or two too far back. i was driving, coming outta 2nd going into 3rd and i missed 3rd cuz the clutch wasnt in far enough. sadly, i grinded. so when i got to stop and i try to put it in reverse, wont even go in more than a centimeter or 2.
i drove it a bit to see if it would straighten out.
didnt make a difference at all.
i tried putting it in gear with the engine off.
tried rolling backwards down a hill to try and get it in. tried coming from different gears to get it in.

its like a 90 year old man trying to do it without a viagra.


so my question is, does anyone have a clue of what could be wrong?
im going to check the transmission fluid level in the morning when theres sunshine again.

if anyone could help me id appreciate it so fuggin much.

but if all else fails, ill just have to take it to the dealership I gotta waranty, thank god!!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Default Re: No Reverse, 01 lude, manual 5spd!! please help!!!!!!!!! (xthekidx)

this happens unfortunately with H trannys, if you misss a shift bad enough you can bend the shift forkes, or atleast that what i remember happening. but you can sit there and re work it in. do a search in the prelude forum for reverse or no revers. it has been covered alot.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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ya there was a thread covering this a while ago, what a lot of people did was grind the **** out of the reverse gear until it went in, but please dont take my word for it. plus you got warranty, go to the dealership first.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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thanks for the feedback guys. this forum is awesome. last week when i had the for about 2days i missed a shift and it went in, but i had to slowly work it back in. but this time its pretty bad lol.

its supposed to be fixed tuesday.

LESSON OF THE STORY:
make sure my seat is far enough forward when i take off.
i hate being portguese and italian were all too damn short.

someone told me it could be the shifting forks too. so yeah man thanks for the help.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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sorry to hear that, it happened to my friends 5th gen also, let us know what actually broke in there, hope it works out
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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ya ill be sure to let you guys know what happend around tuesday. but i believe its ashift fork. i talked to an uncle thats a lisence mechani thru honda and he said its most likely a shift fork and not a slider. if it was a slider it would go in gear but pop out. so ya most likely a shift fork. sounds like i should gt a titanium fork or somethin stronger than whats in it. damn cant wait til tuesday when i gt my wife (lude) back.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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yep i missed 3rd at the track once.....got ready to line up afterwards and realized i couldn't get into reverse

i just kept working at it.....shifting 1-2-R-2-1 with the car off trying to line things up.....after about a week or so it finally went in and got closer to normal by about 2 weeks......you can get it to go back....just takes some work and you might mess it up worse....so if the dealer will fix it for free, let them
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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yea same here ive got a h22 in an eg and my reverse just dosnt work at all so i just ride around wiithout it .. youll get used to it lol .. but it would be nice to get fixed
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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is it a big job to get the shift forks replaced? wut goes into it? like as far as takin the tranny out or not? is it a big job is wut i guess im tryin to ask
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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oh **** im getting it fixed. i got the warranty so theyre gonna cough it up. and i get a rental car for free for as long as it takes.

im gonan ask for a S200. lmao.

but on seriousness, i talked to my uncle that worked on em and he said its usually the shift fork or the roll pin that holds it in that goes.
they drop the tranny out the bottof of the car. usually can be fixed within a day. and he verified warranty covers it.

lucky me. i almost got my revrse to work again, but its better to get a new shift fork, because over time they get limber.

well tuesday im off to the dealership to get it fixed. if tomorrow wasnt MLK Jr.Day itd be done tomorrow but now i gotta wait. damned hollidays.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I have the same problem right now, I have every gear but freakin reverse. I have been driving like this since x-mas. Kinda getting used to it but would like to get it fixed. Guess i am getting LSD now.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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if you know how to drop out the tranny and straighten the part or get a new one, its not that bad of a fix.

i had to read over my contract, the only thing the warranty doesnt cover as far as the transmission is the "clutch disk, pressure plate, and external linkage"

since shift forks are internal and not on the list im in luck. thank flippen god.

i did have another friend tell me if i wanted to go thru gears for about 2 hours, the shift fork would straghten itself out just like someone else mentioned here.

it does suck.

h series do have some pretty bad downfalls.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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I just payed $380 bucks to get my reverse fixed
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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$380 that isnt that bad of a price to fix reverse. Did he have to drop the tranny at all for that price seems kinda cheap to me.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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yeah they gotta drop the tranny. i just dropped my car off today. i hope to have it back by the end of the week. til thern i got my uncles 350 z to drive. lol.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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nope, I took just the tranny in.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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when i took it in i checked the box for them to give me back the damaged part (shift fork).
ill be posting a picture as soon as i get it back so everyone can see what a pain in the *** this common flaw looks like.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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awsome, I wanna see this ****
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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$350 is what I paid a couple of years ago when I have similiar problems except in all gears. My smack was hurting and that 350 includes the price to drop/reinstall, fix it and install a new clutch. Just gotta find those local shops who know what their doing. Discerning between them and the shady ones can be hard but I guess I got lucky too. I remembered like a year before that I had to pay about 1400 for all similar tranny work. I know I was had that time.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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More common of a Sleeve problem for H series transmissions....Never heard of a bent shift fork on those...just not common. Especially because it is cable operated...would think a cable would fray/stretch before you bent a fork! LOL!

Look forward to your finds and good luck on getting your Reverse back
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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if you say its a frayed cable then why would gears 1-5 still be good?
im only saying its a bent shift fork, b/c most ppl that have had this probllem have found it to be that; nonetheless a mechanic thats fixed about 15 of em himself...
im not here to flame either, just for you to see my point.

as far as news: the dude called me today, they were going to get it up in the air and start pulling it apart. im hoping for it to be done by tomorrow or thursday. and i cant wait to see wtf that shift fork looks like. the mystery will be revealed.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xthekidx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if you say its a frayed cable then why would gears 1-5 still be good?
im only saying its a bent shift fork, b/c most ppl that have had this probllem have found it to be that; nonetheless a mechanic thats fixed about 15 of em himself...
im not here to flame either, just for you to see my point.

as far as news: the dude called me today, they were going to get it up in the air and start pulling it apart. im hoping for it to be done by tomorrow or thursday. and i cant wait to see wtf that shift fork looks like. the mystery will be revealed.
DUN DUN DUN!



Modified by xthekidx at 4:04 PM 1/16/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha thats funny man. i hope it works out too that way maybe this will help me with my h22 tranny bc it has the same problem. ive been runnin an h23 tranny ever sice. i would like to get that h22 tranny back in shape with a new final drive
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Didn't say your cable was frayed.....READ it again. I said wouldn't you think you would fray a cable before you even begin to bend a shift fork? Have you even worked on a transmission or even physicaly seen a shift fork?? If you did you would know that it is a lot thicker than a cable. You would more than likely break or bend a small internal shift piece before bending a shift fork. Maybe you should look a little deeper...When you have more of an answer from a guy that has only built 15...then come talk to me. We have built over 3,000 transmissions for the Honda and Acura manual transmission market in the last three years.

Question: Do you still have 5th gear?

If so as you stated...in case you didn't know....5th and Reverse use the same fork...if it was bent like your guy says...you wouldn't have 5th gear or you would have difficulty shifting into 5th. Think about that......

There is a three fork setup in a Prelude

1-2
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5-R

You tell me....I would like to see what your 5th/Reverse sleeve looks like.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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$380 that isnt that bad of a price to fix reverse. Did he have to drop the tranny at all for that price seems kinda cheap to me.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GearSpeedEF7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didn't say your cable was frayed.....READ it again. I said wouldn't you think you would fray a cable before you even begin to bend a shift fork? Have you even worked on a transmission or even physicaly seen a shift fork?? If you did you would know that it is a lot thicker than a cable. You would more than likely break or bend a small internal shift piece before bending a shift fork. Maybe you should look a little deeper...When you have more of an answer from a guy that has only built 15...then come talk to me. We have built over 3,000 transmissions for the Honda and Acura manual transmission market in the last three years.

Question: Do you still have 5th gear?

If so as you stated...in case you didn't know....5th and Reverse use the same fork...if it was bent like your guy says...you wouldn't have 5th gear or you would have difficulty shifting into 5th. Think about that......

There is a three fork setup in a Prelude

1-2
3-4
5-R

You tell me....I would like to see what your 5th/Reverse sleeve looks like.
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Interested that you say this, cause I have no reverse as of xmas.my shift linkage snaped and lost all gears. I put a new shift linkage in and I have all gears except reverse. I have no probs whats so ever getting into 5th, please keep in mind that my shift linkage snapped will putting it into reverse. Either way I can drive my car fine now but would really like to have reverse again. lol
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