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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Default Amsoil in the Si tranny

http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/mtf.aspx

I just changed the tranny oil in my '07 FA5 to Amsoil MTF and the difference is like night and day. It shifts so much more smoothly. It is so worth it!

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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When would be the best time for me to do this? i currently have 1500 miles. Also do you think i could convince the stealership to put it in, i'll buy it i just want them to change because my third is notchy.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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My 2cd is notchy 3rd is fine for me now !
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (xmx250)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xmx250 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When would be the best time for me to do this? i currently have 1500 miles. Also do you think i could convince the stealership to put it in, i'll buy it i just want them to change because my third is notchy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They'll probably still charge you to change the fluid. I told them about my 3rd gear "notchyness" and all they could barf up was that they "couldn't duplicate the problem" and how the Si has a different gearbox than the other models.

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (RICO_)

I have heard this may void your warranty. And I'm little worried about the long term effects on the tranny.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Damn. I knew there'd be a catch. There's ALWAYS a catch!
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (Solo2Vtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Solo2Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have heard this may void your warranty. And I'm little worried about the long term effects on the tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It wont void your warranty.

And changing your own transmission fluid is so easy even a caveman could do it They sell little $3 pumps that screw into the qts of fluid and you simply pump until it starts coming out the fill hole. I'd reccomend spending a little extra $ on the pump as the really inexpesnive ones break after a couple uses
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRE_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It wont void your warranty.

And changing your own transmission fluid is so easy even a caveman could do it They sell little $3 pumps that screw into the qts of fluid and you simply pump until it starts coming out the fill hole. I'd reccomend spending a little extra $ on the pump as the really inexpesnive ones break after a couple uses </TD></TR></TABLE>.

Thank god.....

But are there any long term effects to worry about like the guy mentioned??
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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which one is better? Amsoil Vs. GM?? i've heard both are good but which one is better than the other??
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (RICO_)

Yeah are there any long term issues? Thats why i really want the dealer to put it in.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRE_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It wont void your warranty.

And changing your own transmission fluid is so easy even a caveman could do it </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's so insensitive!
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (RICO_)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They'll probably still charge you to change the fluid. I told them about my 3rd gear "notchyness" and all they could barf up was that they "couldn't duplicate the problem" and how the Si has a different gearbox than the other models. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody accept this! My dealer looked up the service bulletin, called up American Honda, and they told him they've been having problems with ALL Honda 6-speed transmissions. They also said they do not have a solid fix for it, but recommended letting the car warm up for 3-5 minutes before driving, an answer he nor I were happy with. They said some dealers have tried changing out parts but hasn't really helped, however, changing the transmission fluid to a less viscous fluid HAS helped because it heats up a lot faster than the factory stuff. He changed my transmission fluid for FREE.

So moral of the story, Honda knows this is a problem, and your dealer should address it under warranty.


Edit: He also mentioned that Honda has been having a hell of a time with customers living farther north than I. Cold weather doesn't treat these trannys so good.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (cbstd)

yeah I recently changed to Motul 10W-40 and it shifts so much better
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Default Here's a link to DIY changing MTF from 8thCivic!!!

For those who would like to change it yourself instead of the dealer!!!

Got it from 8thCivic!!! Real helpful

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...22170
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (kamikaze84)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kamikaze84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nobody accept this! My dealer looked up the service bulletin, called up American Honda, and they told him they've been having problems with ALL Honda 6-speed transmissions. They also said they do not have a solid fix for it, but recommended letting the car warm up for 3-5 minutes before driving, an answer he nor I were happy with. They said some dealers have tried changing out parts but hasn't really helped, however, changing the transmission fluid to a less viscous fluid HAS helped because it heats up a lot faster than the factory stuff. He changed my transmission fluid for FREE.

So moral of the story, Honda knows this is a problem, and your dealer should address it under warranty.


Edit: He also mentioned that Honda has been having a hell of a time with customers living farther north than I. Cold weather doesn't treat these trannys so good. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good to hear. But my dealer doesn't seem to know that 3rd gear is a problem like I said. I suggested changing the fluid but they said they would charge me cause they couldn't "dupicate the problem". Either that or they didn't even try.

Well since my dealership down SOUTH is being so **** any suggestions on what I should do?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Amsoil in the Si tranny (RICO_)

How many quarts will I need?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Honda mtf sucks, especially in the cold.
I change mine every 15,000-20,000 km's or so.(especially when racing)
I use a blend of Redline MTL, Redline MT-90, and GM synchromesh.
It is very smooth, even in the cold winters we get here in Canada.
Down-shifting is incredible with this combo.
Alot of racers use this blend.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Solo2Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How many quarts will I need? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just below 3 qts.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9bells &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda mtf sucks, especially in the cold.
I change mine every 15,000-20,000 km's or so.(especially when racing)
I use a blend of Redline MTL, Redline MT-90, and GM synchromesh.
It is very smooth, even in the cold winters we get here in Canada.
Down-shifting is incredible with this combo.
Alot of racers use this blend. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldnt go as far to say that honda MTF "SUCKS" but its definantly not great for cold climates / racing conditions.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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My car was slightly notchy first winter(10,000km's).
I swapped the fluid for redline, gone.
Most of the problem with the tranny is the fluid.
They even made a version 2, because of it's performance.
Maybe it doesn't suck, ok.
But, it's definately not great for shifting a transmission.
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