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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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So I used a blowdryer and dental floss and got the 2 badges off. Then used goo gone, waited 5 minutes, wiped it off, blowdried it for 2 minutes, peeled off as much as I can, repeated 3 times.

Now I still see an outline of each badge. People said this was normal. Someone told me to use brake parts cleaner and gently scrub it off (ie - with cotton swab). Is this safe? If I leave it on for too long will it eat at the paint? If I scrub too hard will it eat at the paint?

May I remind you the car is almost 8 years old now so the paint may not hold up as well it used to.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Brake cleaner is pretty harsh, I wouldn't do it. Why don't you try a little rubbing compound?
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Don't have any. Nor do I know what it is, looks like, etc. lol. I'm not really knowledgable in the detailing area so I was hoping for some good advice.

So I'm assuming by your post that it can/will eat through the paint if I let it sit for too long or scrub too hard?
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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I've done it to remove pinstriping adhesive. You have to be very very very careful. It's a last resort thing (ie, when a good compound won't do).

What I did was spray some in a bowl, dab a q-tip in it, and then swab it, then immediately wipe away, then flush with water.

You will have to wax after this.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will have to wax after this. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Damnit was hoping you wouldn't say this.

Yeah Amy recommended the brake parts cleaner but I was just worried and thought I'd get some advice before doing it. I really don't wanna wax so I guess I'll try to find some rubbing compound.

What should I buy? Any recommendations? And how do you use it rolf.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Damnit was hoping you wouldn't say this.

Yeah Amy recommended the brake parts cleaner but I was just worried and thought I'd get some advice before doing it. I really don't wanna wax so I guess I'll try to find some rubbing compound.

What should I buy? Any recommendations? And how do you use it rolf.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Man, you're lazy.

You'd have to wax after rubbing compound as well.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Go to a GOOD parts store, ask for light rubbing compound. Then ask how to use it. Follow the directions on the tub/bottle.

Ever put brake cleaner on paint? Try it...you wont like it. That **** dissolves plastic tubs, and will make short work of thinning clearcoats.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man, you're lazy.

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Oh you have no idea :D. And I still have to wax after rubbing compound? Goddamnit I hate being lazy. Only reason why I'm lazy these days is cuz it's ******* freezing outside.

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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Oh you have no idea :D. And I still have to wax after rubbing compound? Goddamnit I hate being lazy. Only reason why I'm lazy these days is cuz it's ******* freezing outside.

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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go to a GOOD parts store, ask for light rubbing compound. Then ask how to use it. Follow the directions on the tub/bottle.

Ever put brake cleaner on paint? Try it...you wont like it. That **** dissolves plastic tubs, and will make short work of thinning clearcoats.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used to use brake cleaner to strip paint off foglights when it would crack and I had to respray

But as long as your paint has good protection on it, and you're very careful ... you'll be fine. It'll just eat your wax first. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like this kid has any wax to begin with.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Garage and a space heater. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Being poor &gt; me. Have a job but need all the money for school books.

And Zero wax to begin with and zero wax to finish with . I'll try the rubbing compound. Thanks guys .
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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What I'm wondering is why you havent sprayed Goo Gone on there and used a heat gun on it. And then use dental floss to get them off. Then use goo gone on the left residue. Rinse with water. Tada.

edit: My bad, didnt read the OP. Just replied to the topic name hah, but if there is an outline where the badges are.... it really depends on how old the paint on the car is. If the badges have been on the entire life of the car and it's an EG, chances are the paint underneath the badges will be faded. That's why I debadged my EK as soon as I got it in like 2002.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shocka1998LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What I'm wondering is why you havent sprayed Goo Gone on there and used a heat gun on it. And then use dental floss to get them off. Then use goo gone on the left residue. Rinse with water. Tada.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Some of that adhesive is just gnarly. The pinstripe removal I spoke of earlier was a prime example. We tried Goo Gone, 3M SAR, and Rain-X Bug and Tar Remover .... none of them worked
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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brake parts cleaner is like liquid death to your paint lol
rubbing compound
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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us paint tiner thats really good but dont use alot ahaha
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">us paint tiner thats really good but dont use alot ahaha </TD></TR></TABLE>

Mineral spirits is just as harsh as brake cleaner ... neither of which should be anything to be afraid of.

I love these "death to paint" comments
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some of that adhesive is just gnarly. The pinstripe removal I spoke of earlier was a prime example. We tried Goo Gone, 3M SAR, and Rain-X Bug and Tar Remover .... none of them worked </TD></TR></TABLE>
Werd.

Some of the adhesive used for both emblems and pinstripes seems similar to rubber cement. It's very nasty and it's almost flat with the paint so rubbing compound did absolutely nothing to it.

Went and got a can of brake cleaner, sprayed it into a bowl and dipped a cotton swab into it. Rub the area with the cotton swab (this makes it easier to keep track of where the brake cleaner is) and it will slowly disolve.

I never had any paint issue with it. Your clearcoat is actually a lot stronger than you might think. A lot of paints might melt right off with brake cleaner (such as spray paint) but the clearcoat stands up to it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chacha123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">brake parts cleaner is like liquid death to your paint lol
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Rubbing compound doesn't always work. Some of this adhesive is very smooth, flat, and hard. It's usually a greyish color and shows up on the car very well. And brake cleaner isn't anywhere near liquid death to automotive clearcoat finish. I wouldn't use it on a single stage enamel, but it's not going to melt off your clearcoat and right through to the metal.

If you use rubbing compound be ready to get more products to get rid of the swirls.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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rubber erasers seems to work for me on any left over residue. You can try the plane jane regular pink ones, the yellow-rubber looking ones, or the german vinyl erasers. Ensure there is no dirt/dust where your rubbing so you dont rub it into the paint. I use 3M wax/adhesive remover to try and take off anything first then bust out an eraser. The vinyl eraser will likely be the least abrasive, some pink ones are very abrasive, and the yellow/natural colored ones seems to be medium abrasive.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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if you let brake kleen sit it will just evaporate. However it is not supposed to be used on paint. Use some form of detailing product IE claybar, electric buffer, rubbing compound....
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jobe16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you let brake kleen sit it will just evaporate. However it is not supposed to be used on paint. Use some form of detailing product IE claybar, electric buffer, rubbing compound....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sometimes removing stuck on adhesive isn't detailing. It's body work

Other than using an eraser bit, brake clean was a pretty good alternative. I've used an eraser bit before, and it's really easy to expletive up with those, and burn your clearcoat.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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your avatar is blowing my mind.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Laquer thinnner works best
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Just finished completely debading. Spent about an hour and a half. Did things slow.

Used Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound and rubbed/wiped several times until I couldn't see the Civic or EX at any angle. Then used Mothers California Gold wax (3 phase stuff) and waxed about 3 inches out from where I used the rubbing compound.

Looks awesome. Too bad it's dark and can't really see how clean it looks. The only thing that's going to bother is the rest of my car is dirty as hell from all the rain lately and stuff while just the right top/bottom corner of the trunk is hella clean and waxed.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just finished completely debading. Spent about an hour and a half. Did things slow.

Used Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound and rubbed/wiped several times until I couldn't see the Civic or EX at any angle. Then used Mothers California Gold wax (3 phase stuff) and waxed about 3 inches out from where I used the rubbing compound.

Looks awesome. Too bad it's dark and can't really see how clean it looks. The only thing that's going to bother is the rest of my car is dirty as hell from all the rain lately and stuff while just the right top/bottom corner of the trunk is hella clean and waxed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can't understand how people don't wash their cars in the winter .... I just got done washing mine, and it got down to 20 degrees today. It's really easy to keep your car clean in the winter ... you just have to put forth an effort.

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Use gasoline!
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