I gave these a try because employees at a tyre distributor were very excited about them and the price was very cheap, seemingly affording a lot of performance for the money.

Car is a 2006 Accord 6-6 Coupe, and tyre size is 235-45-17.

After using these tyres for 20,000+ miles, I have to say that I do not think that I would recommend them, at least not on this kind of car.

The compound is now quite hard after the mileage I've driven and no longer provides the grippiest performance in the dry. Until the past few days, the winter here in Virginia has been very mild and I do not think the weather has much to do with it. Until today the temperature has never dipped anywhere near freezing.

The scary thing is that they're advertised as all weather tyres. I never had the feeling that the wet performance was very good, and now that the miles have piled up they let loose at surpringly low levels of torque application.

Two additional complaints: (1)they are hard to keep balanced and (2)they are extremely noisy.

Over the 20,000 miles they have been rebalanced twice and the wheel's shaking again. No idea what could be causing this. The balance doesn't last long before you notice the shaking beginning to build up again.

They're so noisy that people on a wirless conversation will ask about the background noise.

This was not the most intelligent purchase I've ever made.

Although the tread indicates that they'd last quite a bit longer, I'm going to go ahead and replace them with another cheap tyre, the Kumho ASX, and see if I do better with those.

I had P Zero Nero on my little EP3, and they did well, so I almost bought those again.

Moreover, the Pilot Sport A/S got great reviews, too, and my finger was on the purchase button for those a couple of times.

But that $88/each for the Kumho ASX is too tempting not to try...I'll report back after a few thousand miles.

 

either the guy balancing your wheels did not calibrate the machine or the guy doesn't know what he is doing.... he could be balancing them incorrectly too.. my thoughts on the subject... if you drive your car hard then you should of bought the pirelli's over the kumho asx...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The scary thing is that they're advertised as all weather tyres. I never had the feeling that the wet performance was very good, and now that the miles have piled up they let loose at surpringly low levels of torque application.</TD></TR></TABLE>

All-season tires are not necessarily any better in rain than summer tires; in fact, many summer tires are just awesome in rain, much better than all-seasons. "All-season" refers to their greater range of ambient operating temperatures, and the fact that they will grip better in cold temperatures (say, below freezing) than a summer tire, and better in warm weather than a winter tire (although not as well in either condition as the tires designed for that condition). Their tread pattern is also generally designed to be okay in snow (although again, not as good as winter tires).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Although the tread indicates that they'd last quite a bit longer, I'm going to go ahead and replace them with another cheap tyre, the Kumho ASX, and see if I do better with those.

I had P Zero Nero on my little EP3, and they did well, so I almost bought those again.

Moreover, the Pilot Sport A/S got great reviews, too, and my finger was on the purchase button for those a couple of times.

But that $88/each for the Kumho ASX is too tempting not to try...I'll report back after a few thousand miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

These are three of the five best all-season tires, IMHO (along with the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS and Avon Tech M550A/S). I'm assuming that the Pirelli you were using is the all-season PZero Nero M+S, rather than their PZero Nero summer tire. I generally recommend the ASX over the others because of the substantial price difference.

 

GK, I wouldn't expect much from all weather tires, period. Once again, the saying, "you get what you pay for" proves itself.

nsxtasy has a great point too.

Thanks for the write up.

 

I think that perhaps I was a little less precise than I should have been.

There were deliberately marketed as "all weather" but they are not "all season" tyres.

They're not for use on snow and ice, but the water channeling capability and grippy tread compound is what they're marketing.

They do channel water well, but it doesn't make up for the compound's lack of performance in situations where there is a light, dangerous coating of water on the road. This is a bad thing for any tyre compound, but it seems to be worse for these.

I can put up with a lot, and I will frequently just choose a different driving style to experiment with a tyre's failures and maximise its features, but this one tyre was one I just couldn't handle any longer.

You wouldn't believe the noise they make. I feel like I'm on 70's-something XWX's. Or at least I'd think that if they handled as well as 70's-something XWX's.