current audio set up is 10w6v2 powered by a jl audio 250/1 and a stock pioneer cd-player. My dilemma(sp) is if I should upgrade from a 10w6 to a 12w6 and a bigger amp, or should I get a new deck. I was thinking about the Pioneer 6800 or 7800...what would be better for me? If it helps, I drive a scion tc (yes i know a girl car), and it's a hatch.

Any other suggestions to amps/decks/subs would be greatly appreciated also.

 

It all depends on what satisfies you. If you're happy with your sub, then get a deck, and vice versa.

 

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i like the sound of it right now, i forgot to mention that i have alpine type-r components running off a ppi amp (forgot model number, something like pp360 or something)...i just want an overall better sound, better quality

 

Does the stock HU have RCA outs on the back? Just wondering if you're running amps off of line out converters or RCA's...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does the stock HU have RCA outs on the back? Just wondering if you're running amps off of line out converters or RCA's...

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yeah, they have the rca outs....you guys think the pioneer 6800 is a good buy? because on crutchfield, it's only 200 something.

 

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yeah, they have the rca outs....you guys think the pioneer 6800 is a good buy? because on crutchfield, it's only 200 something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

*****...i'm on my buddies name because I forgot to log out at work...

 

The first thing I would do is change you sub amp "JL Audio 250/1" to a 500/1 the JL Audio 10W6v2-D4 is a 400W sub, at 250W it is way underpowered.

I would also like to know what the PPIs RMS output is, as the Alpine SPR-17LS, [I assume that is the model you have] are 70W speakers, also as they are "over-sized" 6.5" speakers, [not sure what the stock speaker is in a Scion TC] but I would like to see how they are mounted, speaker installation is critical for good SQ. 94

PS you sure can't go wrong replacing the HU with a better one, and the Pioneer DEH-P7800MP is a pretty good HU with lots of usable features.
The DEH-P6800MP is also a pretty good HU, at about 1/2 the price.


Modified by fcm at 11:15 AM 1/7/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The first thing I would do is change you sub amp "JL Audio 250/1" to a 500/1 the JL Audio 10W6v2-D4 is a 400W sub, at 250W it is way underpowered.

I would also like to know what the PPIs RMS output is, as the Alpine SPR-17LS, [I assume that is the model you have] are 70W speakers, also as they are "over-sized" 6.5" speakers, [not sure what the stock speaker is in a Scion TC] but I would like to see how they are mounted, speaker installation is critical for good SQ. 94

PS you sure can't go wrong replacing the HU with a better one, and the Pioneer DEH-P7800MP is a pretty good HU with lots of usable features.
The DEH-P6800MP is also a pretty good HU, at about 1/2 the price.


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ahhhh...idk what to do...i can get a real good deal on a 12w6v2 (under 200)...possibly sell my set up i have now (sub/amp)...get the headunit with out of pocket cash, and then with the money i made on the sub/amp, i can get a 500/1.....

 

12W6V2 for lesss then 200$ is one HELL of a deal.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mik3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ahhhh...idk what to do...i can get a real good deal on a 12w6v2 (under 200)...possibly sell my set up i have now (sub/amp)...get the headunit with out of pocket cash, and then with the money i made on the sub/amp, i can get a 500/1..... </TD></TR></TABLE> That would work, a 400W sub with a 500W amp, better to be overpowered then underpowered, but you may like the output of 2x10" better then 1x12", just replace the amp with a 1000/1.
Find a JL Audio dealer that can demo two 10" with the 1000/1 and the 12" with a 500/1, pick the setup you like the best 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> That would work, a 400W sub with a 500W amp, better to be overpowered then underpowered, but you may like the output of 2x10" better then 1x12", just replace the amp with a 1000/1.
Find a JL Audio dealer that can demo two 10" with the 1000/1 and the 12" with a 500/1, pick the setup you like the best 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would be expensive.

 

If you're running off the stock hu right now I'd say get a new hu. Either pioneer will work, the 7800/780 is just a lot more flashy and has a couple better audio features (5v outputs vs 4v, 16bandeq, and time alignment).

For what you're describing I would recommend a new deck then a new sub amp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by misanthropist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're running off the stock hu right now I'd say get a new hu. Either pioneer will work, the 7800/780 is just a lot more flashy and has a couple better audio features (5v outputs vs 4v, 16bandeq, and time alignment).

For what you're describing I would recommend a new deck then a new sub amp </TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds good...imma have to put this audio upgrade on hold for a week or two because i have to get a new rear bumper (some bitch hit my car when it was parked and she didnt have insurance, and i dont want to file a claim beacuse insurance might go up...)

 

Don't you have UMP?

 

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what's ump?

 

unisured motorist policy

 

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yeah, but there's a possibility that my insurance rates go up....im a college student right now and my parents are taking care of my insurance...i dont want them to have to pay higher insurance rates, so imma try to take care of this one myself

 

if you decide to get a new head unit, i have two decent models that i'll sell to ya

alipine 9847 115
pioneer 7500mp 135

 

pioneer 7500mp is a bad *** deck

 

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why do you say that? personal experiences?

 

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why do you say that? personal experiences?</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually i'm thinking about getting an indash when tax season rolls around..dunno yet

 

I would say you can get more power from your system itself once you upgrade the deck.

 

Possible if the deck is powerful enough. 8V preout deck would be better than one with only a 2 or 3V preout.

 

i've made up my mind...imma go with the pioneer 7800...and if i decide to get an in dash, i can always sell the 7800...thanks for all the info guys

 

You might want to get the 780MP instead. The premier version has a 2yr warranty, instead of a 1yr