I need Just the Break Caliper. Where to Buy?
I just need to buy the break caliper only for a 01 civic. I can only find places that sell kits, I dont need a kit, just 2 calipers.
Does anyone know a place?
Does anyone know a place?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, I need to upgrade my calipers with like a 4 pisten. Not OEM. I cant find a single place that sells only the calipers, they are all kits with pads and roters. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Your only option would be eBay at that point, or somewhere where you can buy used. If you're determined for new calipers, start contacting Wilwood, Brembo, Baer, etc....
Your only option would be eBay at that point, or somewhere where you can buy used. If you're determined for new calipers, start contacting Wilwood, Brembo, Baer, etc....
Thats because there's no 4 pot caliper for a 10.3" rotor. You're trying to find something that doesnt exist. Hence, everyone sells it in kit form. You need to upgrade to 11" rotors, then you can either use the Fastbrakes Wilwood kit or DC2R Spoons (need modding), or you can go for the 12.2" Wilwood off the shelf kit, or the Brembo kit.
my bracks suck. i wanna upgrade em. keep stock size roter and just get better calipers
so is there or isnt there caliper sold by themselfs for a 15" wheel?
so is there or isnt there caliper sold by themselfs for a 15" wheel?
The caliper, on its own does nothing to add stopping power. Its just a cylinder with a piston. The master cylinder applies a fluid force, the caliper transfers it.
There's nothing to upgrade stock size rotors, nor would 4 piston calipers help.
Get better pads.
There's nothing to upgrade stock size rotors, nor would 4 piston calipers help.
Get better pads.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boilermaker1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The caliper, on its own does nothing to add stopping power. Its just a cylinder with a piston. The master cylinder applies a fluid force, the caliper transfers it.
There's nothing to upgrade stock size rotors, nor would 4 piston calipers help.
Get better pads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
nice try though, 2/10
What are you gonna tell me to do next? Replace my break lines and get higher boiling point break fluid?
There's nothing to upgrade stock size rotors, nor would 4 piston calipers help.
Get better pads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
nice try though, 2/10
What are you gonna tell me to do next? Replace my break lines and get higher boiling point break fluid?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
nice try though, 2/10
What are you gonna tell me to do next? Replace my break lines and get higher boiling point break fluid?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh man I can't wait for boilermaker to respond to that haha. FYI Killtodie, boilermaker autocrosses and open tracks his car. IMO he probably knows the 7thgen the best when to comes to suspension and brake tunning.
nice try though, 2/10
What are you gonna tell me to do next? Replace my break lines and get higher boiling point break fluid?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh man I can't wait for boilermaker to respond to that haha. FYI Killtodie, boilermaker autocrosses and open tracks his car. IMO he probably knows the 7thgen the best when to comes to suspension and brake tunning.
Yes, I'm clueless... thats it.
Go teach yourself about pressure/volume ratios and how they work in brake calipers and get back to me. Maybe if you had any clue, you'd understand what I'm talking about. But you dont and you've obviously been reading a bit too much Super Street, enamored with all the pretty colors and ****. Stoptech has a fantastic article on their website about the detriment of 4 pots when not done right, I suggest you find it and read it.
Go teach yourself about pressure/volume ratios and how they work in brake calipers and get back to me. Maybe if you had any clue, you'd understand what I'm talking about. But you dont and you've obviously been reading a bit too much Super Street, enamored with all the pretty colors and ****. Stoptech has a fantastic article on their website about the detriment of 4 pots when not done right, I suggest you find it and read it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
nice try though, 2/10
What are you gonna tell me to do next? Replace my break lines and get higher boiling point break fluid?</TD></TR></TABLE>
WOW...did you just imply that boilermaker1 doesn't know what he's talking about????
im sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
nice try though, 2/10
What are you gonna tell me to do next? Replace my break lines and get higher boiling point break fluid?</TD></TR></TABLE>
WOW...did you just imply that boilermaker1 doesn't know what he's talking about????
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the master cylinder puts out a lot. getting a caliper with more pistons is a huge ****** improvement.
the presure put out maybe the same but its spread out more on teh caliper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Learn how to do math. The volume the master cylinder pushes into the line doesnt change. Spread same volume over more piston area equals LESS PRESSURE. Less pressure = less force applied to the pad, which means you gotta push the pedal harder to get the same effect. Less force, less braking effort. The only thing 4 pots do is even out whatever pressure you are applying, but since you're applying less, its not helping. You'll run out of MC travel.
Get a damn clue, you dont have any friggin idea what you're doing.
the presure put out maybe the same but its spread out more on teh caliper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Learn how to do math. The volume the master cylinder pushes into the line doesnt change. Spread same volume over more piston area equals LESS PRESSURE. Less pressure = less force applied to the pad, which means you gotta push the pedal harder to get the same effect. Less force, less braking effort. The only thing 4 pots do is even out whatever pressure you are applying, but since you're applying less, its not helping. You'll run out of MC travel.
Get a damn clue, you dont have any friggin idea what you're doing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you even know how hydraulics works? because what you said right there was just 100% wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why don't you go ahead and elaborate on how he is "100%" wrong???
Why don't you go ahead and elaborate on how he is "100%" wrong???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you even know how hydraulics works? because what you said right there was just 100% wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm 100% sure that everything I said was 100% right. You need to learn basic math. If you take the same amount of fluid, and push on a larger area, it wont push as hard. Its not rocket science. Its P1A1 = P2A2
1 is the MC, its constant
2 is the calipers
Increase A2, what happens, P2 MUST DECREASE.
If P2 decreases, then you must increase P1 to get back to the P2 that you would have had with the stock calipers. If you need to push harder, you add pedal travel.
Now, like I said, Get a ******* clue.
Modified by Boilermaker1 at 11:35 PM 1/5/2007
I'm 100% sure that everything I said was 100% right. You need to learn basic math. If you take the same amount of fluid, and push on a larger area, it wont push as hard. Its not rocket science. Its P1A1 = P2A2
1 is the MC, its constant
2 is the calipers
Increase A2, what happens, P2 MUST DECREASE.
If P2 decreases, then you must increase P1 to get back to the P2 that you would have had with the stock calipers. If you need to push harder, you add pedal travel.
Now, like I said, Get a ******* clue.
Modified by Boilermaker1 at 11:35 PM 1/5/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the master cylinder puts out a lot. getting a caliper with more pistons is a huge ****** improvement.
the presure put out maybe the same but its spread out more on teh caliper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You need a larger amount of brake pressure, to make an increase in stopping power. Having more pistons on the receiving end of the hydraulic lines, won't increase the pressure any. You need to start with the source/creation of the pressure, aka. the brake booster/master cylinder.
the presure put out maybe the same but its spread out more on teh caliper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You need a larger amount of brake pressure, to make an increase in stopping power. Having more pistons on the receiving end of the hydraulic lines, won't increase the pressure any. You need to start with the source/creation of the pressure, aka. the brake booster/master cylinder.
As an civil engineer ( only 2 months to go!) I understand Hydraulics.... well lets say a bit, and from a H-T standpoint i trust boiler a bit.
What boiler says is correct. 99% of the times, when he chooses to post ( which isnt as common as other people ) he speaks the truth. Even if i didnt understand the properties of a hydaulic system ( which i do) i would still trust his judgement.
What boiler says is correct. 99% of the times, when he chooses to post ( which isnt as common as other people ) he speaks the truth. Even if i didnt understand the properties of a hydaulic system ( which i do) i would still trust his judgement.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, this coming from the guy who spent almost $2000 on fixing his transmission.
lol, this coming from the guy who spent almost $2000 on fixing his transmission.


