I bought 4 new tires 4 months ago. I asked to have an alignment as well. I went to switch to my snow tires this weekend and found that the inside of both rears are completely bald. Is is possible to get a rear alignment on a crx or what? It doesn't appear that I can but I could be incorrect. Could this be caused by something else?

I don't want to go back to the shop that mounted the tires and did the alignment and accuse them if it could be something else or if a rear alignment cant be done. But if it is their fault I want something back or new tires, they were $500 and I didn't even put 4K on them yet...

 

Is your car lowered?

 

Did you get a little sheet that had all your pre and post alignment specs? Also, some shops have the option for only a front alignment, or a four wheel alignment. Find out which one you have before burning the place down

 

extremely high tire pressure...

 

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No.

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if it is too high they did it because they installed the tires...


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I just had a charge for $100 for the alignment.. no specs on it.. i just wanted to know if a 4 wheeel alignment was possible on a crx anyway..

 

It sounds like they didn't align the rear wheels. Most places won't do it unless you ask them to. I'd go back and have them take a look at the rear and give you specs before and after (camber,toe,caster,etc.)

 

$100 Buys me 1/yr 4 wheel alignments at Tire Kingdom

 

Yea, you need to ask them what you got, because they might have just done a front end and not a 4 wheel.
Just curious what kind/size tires did they install? and the fronts were the same size/kind? how did the fronts look, worn out or still good?
Good luck, go bitch em out, some tire places will sometimes try to pull one on you because they think women know nothing about cars (sorry tire place pulled one on my sister last month )

 

I know there is not a rear camber adjustment, but you can adjust toe. Most likely your upper control arm bushings are shot. Try to grab the top of the tire and pull towards you. If there is play, you need to find out whats loose.

 

Do you have a pic of your car? Im 99% sure that ur car is lowed. If they did charged u 100 for aligment for the front only then u got ripped off big time. usually only 70 for all four.
and if they did charged 100 for all four (suppose the right price)that means your car is lowed (cuz they need lower jacked so ur car can go in. This is at Wheel Work)
Anyway find out the CAMPER and TOES

 

something definitely sound wrong. there is no way you can wear out your rear tires within 4k miles on a car thats not lowered

 

yeah, ur car must have negative camber which is caused by lowering the car without camber kits to correct the tire angle, causing the inside to be worn at a faster rate than the others. SO it could be the alignment, but it wouldnt act like camber wear, but the only other thing i can think of is toe-in or watever from trailing arm bushings but that usually just wears the whole tire at an accelerated rate.

 

alright if you only put 4K on the tires and the insides are already bald i'd be more than willing to bet you have excesive toe out in the rear. yes camber will wear a tire but i've never seen camber wear a tire that quickly.

and like some one mentioned earlier for $100 it should have been a 4 wheel alignment. and technically a 2 wheel alignment is BS.

i'd take it back to them and have them take a second look at it. and yeah check your bushings too. i doubt the toe link bushings are bad cause they never really go bad but check them any ways. check them all though. if one or more is bad i'd accuse them of NOT doing a thorough profesional job and you want your money back or to be compensated because they basically in all reality ripped you off if that's the case. i'd say two new tires and a free alignment would be fair. but you need to find out why those tires wore out. poor alignment, bad bushings, etc. and btw too much tire pressure will cause tires to wear in the center of the tire. too little air will cause both the insides and out sides to wear so rule out air pressure.

i have done numerous allignments and tons were hondas. there is no camber adjustment front or rear from the factory but there are front and rear toe adjustments. something else that may have happend is the rear toe links were siezed so they just didn't touch it. they are bad about rusting. and if that's the case you should have been informed, and the price discounted or the problem fixed accordingly.

sorry for wirting a book!

 

also be sure to check the trailing arm bushing/s in the rear...they might be rotted out

 

Damn I get 4 wheel alignments here for 59.99 and they even do camber adjustment all the way around for you if you've got adjustable camber kits.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GTSR5SEJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright if you only put 4K on the tires and the insides are already bald i'd be more than willing to bet you have excesive toe out in the rear. yes camber will wear a tire but i've never seen camber wear a tire that quickly.

and like some one mentioned earlier for $100 it should have been a 4 wheel alignment. and technically a 2 wheel alignment is BS.

i'd take it back to them and have them take a second look at it. and yeah check your bushings too. i doubt the toe link bushings are bad cause they never really go bad but check them any ways. check them all though. if one or more is bad i'd accuse them of NOT doing a thorough profesional job and you want your money back or to be compensated because they basically in all reality ripped you off if that's the case. i'd say two new tires and a free alignment would be fair. but you need to find out why those tires wore out. poor alignment, bad bushings, etc. and btw too much tire pressure will cause tires to wear in the center of the tire. too little air will cause both the insides and out sides to wear so rule out air pressure.

i have done numerous allignments and tons were hondas. there is no camber adjustment front or rear from the factory but there are front and rear toe adjustments. something else that may have happend is the rear toe links were siezed so they just didn't touch it. they are bad about rusting. and if that's the case you should have been informed, and the price discounted or the problem fixed accordingly.

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Thanks so very much!

I know my car is in no way lowered.. my friends make fun of me all the time because it looks so damn high... "are you going to limbo under that thing".."do you like it so high that you dont need a jack under it to work on it".. bla bla bla (just busting *****)

I knew that there was no camber adjustment that is why I was wondering if a 4 wheel alignment was possible, but now since I am armed with this information about the toe adjustments that should be a great help.

Although the guy at the shop was a real dick to me... I dont know if I am going to get very far but atleast now I can walk in and sound like i know what I am talking about..
Thanks so very much I really appreciate it! I'll keep you guys updated

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I'll be sure to check that too TY

 

expletive that spot, just got somewhere else. ive paid 40 bux for aligment all around.

 

from my experience the people who are dicks the first time you meet em will be a dick all other times you come in contact with them....find a different shop..even if you have learned something on this forum and try to ask them about it, they will probably make some stupid remark to try to make you feel dumb....i get it all the time from domestic performance shop owners...lol....either way just like everything in life shop around and make sure the place you take it to will give the rear a thorough checkup ...i forgot, have them check the rear LCA bushings...when those rot they have a tendency to make the wheel wiggle...
at this point an alignment in the rear will only make a bad situation a little better....since the inside of the tire is already bald they wont be able to do an accurate alignment that will work with new tireseither wait till those tires are done and align new tires or get it done now and have another alignment done when you get new tires....either way the tires are already off balance and an alignment will only do so much...

 

UPDATE:

well I went back in today loaded with my new info and their response was that they only did a front wheel alignment. i asked them why would they put on 4 brand new tires and not make sure that all 4 are going to function properly.

He asked me to come back tomorrow so that they could put it up on the lift and check it out and that maybe he could get the tires replaced by the manufacturer. so we will see what he says tomorrow.. but he is sticking to the "well, we only did the front alignment" story though... so I will see tomorrow

 

$100 for a front wheel only alignment is a rip off. that's what we used to charge for a "specialty" alignment.


i'm afraid of where this is going too. they say they will try to get the manufacturer to waranty the tires... they probably only warenty under defects. tire wear due to alignment is not defect and they won't cover it. when you asked for an alignment it is up to them "the store" to check and make sure your alignment is good and that all your steering and suspension components are in good working order as they directly affect alignment and tire wear. it's part of the job you paid them a lot of money to do. it's like if jiffy lube didn't tighten your drain plug or forgot to put oil in your car they didn't do their job properly and they replace your motor right? well tires are cheap compared to motors.

also if he gives you the runaround on the alignment stuff try talking to the person who actually did the alignment. he should know more about it.


good luck again!

 

^^ I second that, $100 is way too much for a front only alignment , they might not have adjusted the rear because the rear toe links are rusted and dont move which is a super common problem with cars this old and in rusty NY

 

OK NOW I AM MAD!!!

I went back yesterday and this dickbag told me that someone else has been under my car recently and adjusted the camber way out .. that there was now way that his employees did it and that my tires would have worn out in less than 200 miles and there is no way that his shop is responsible.

I then corrected him and told him that there is no camber adjustment for the rear only toe and he quickly jumped in "oh that's what I meant, either way its not our problem, someone else was under here, and your fronts have been touched again too" I told him that no one else has been under my car to which he responded "oh yeah so you don't get your oil changed?" To which I replied that I do my own oil changes and I know that I never touched the tires. So either way he wont do a damn thing and he is an ***. So now I have to eat the cost of these tires and get the rear fixed. I hope Karma attacks him by sending a gorilla to rape his ***.. mean people FTL

 

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I went back yesterday and this dickbag told me that someone else has been under my car recently and adjusted the camber way out .. that there was now way that his employees did it and that my tires would have worn out in less than 200 miles and there is no way that his shop is responsible.

I then corrected him and told him that there is no camber adjustment for the rear only toe and he quickly jumped in "oh that's what I meant, either way its not our problem, someone else was under here, and your fronts have been touched again too" I told him that no one else has been under my car to which he responded "oh yeah so you don't get your oil changed?" To which I replied that I do my own oil changes and I know that I never touched the tires. So either way he wont do a damn thing and he is an ***. So now I have to eat the cost of these tires and get the rear fixed. I hope Karma attacks him by sending a gorilla to rape his ***.. mean people FTL </TD></TR></TABLE>Yep, the **** to adjust the toe in the rear is frozen. That's why he is being an even bigger dick now. That's why it didn't get adjusted then and it's why he's being a dick about it now. They don't want to deal with it because it's a pain in the ***.

I can see your future and it has 2 new control arms in it. Good luck. That situation sucks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILcrxsi1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, the **** to adjust the toe in the rear is frozen. That's why he is being an even bigger dick now. That's why it didn't get adjusted then and it's why he's being a dick about it now. They don't want to deal with it because it's a pain in the ***.

I can see your future and it has 2 new control arms in it. Good luck. That situation sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ohh so it gets even better....

 

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ohh so it gets even better.... </TD></TR></TABLE>yep, I can almost promise you this is the problem. you live up north. we have it rough when it comes to suspension stuff.