Somthing that many ppl never told of doing

did anyone ever take the time 2 take apart there solenoid

well here a little something i been doing for years

in the solenoid asampley {sorry for spelling} theres a spring if u replace this spring with a itr or if u dont have the money just space it out a little to make it just a little longer with some pliers but i really mean a little at the ends of the spring

this allows the motor too keep vtec open like when u first open it up but all the time with out the stupid after affect were u feel vtec gets weak

sorry im not that great at writing things up if i knew how to post pics up or someone would wanna tell me how i could take pics and show alot of u what im talking about


Modified by crxmissing at 7:21 PM 12/29/2006

 

doesn't make any sense....could you explain better? or maybe you should google how vtec works . and the reason it gets weak is because 1st of all its not a 454 chevy its a little motor with 150whp if you're lucky...also the cams play a big part in it,,and the ecu fuel and timing maps..and the stock exhaust manifold and intake manifold,etc,etc..

 

I used to be a jackass too...then i read howstuffworks...read it...i hope you burn your oil...

 

454 chevy lol sorry have to laught at that

u ever see the diffrents in many honda motors some hit vtec very well and some dont

well for a long time i try to figure out why and 4 years ago after taking apart many soliniods i notice many of the b16 that soundted very weak had shitty spings and then look at the h22 and gsr there springs were smaller then 1gen b16 so it was all in 1 a weak spring or 2 too small of a spring take the spring off a 1st gen b16a drop it into your gsr u will hear vtec and fell tec so much better like its hard to explain u and many others dont ever hear about anyone touch the solinoid again sorry for my spelling so u will think that im kinda nuts but so i would post up pics and show all of u that honda kinda dick us over and we can make are soliniods alot better then stock like we did everything else with vtec motors

 

i understand what you're saying completly...and it does sound louder,you can hear the click,and hear it open up...but that doesnt mean its making more power..its like when you get an exhaust it feels faster even though you're only gaining like 3whp....its all in the head

unless there was something wrong with the original vtec solenoid

 

I like how my V-TECH works now but if what you say is true that would be tight. I think if your car is tuned right V-TECH will pop on harder also.

 

no buddy

im not burning oil and u can read many things thats the probelm with half u guys
u guys read while other make the diffrents

i visted Pr 2 weeks ago and its kinda funny how them guys have no degree at all but with 50 dollars can build u a monster from a 1.8 corolla motor something that i wont but again with any honda and yeah there ghetto but its the fact that ppl that wanna go fast make a different by trying different things its the will that pushes us to do what we do

and Purtorico vs usa Pr always win with there little ghetto car and they dont read what there doing or ask anyone u think honda gonna tell u yeah do this and that too make ur car gain 20hp no we do that we make the diffrents honda would not want us touching what they feel is perfect

we honda guys do it for them **** all car guys that wanna go fast do it i mean



Modified by crxmissing at 7:20 PM 12/29/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboef310 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like how my V-TECH works now but if what you say is true that would be tight. I think if your car is tuned right V-TECH will pop on harder also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

holy ******* **** its VTEC! and this thread is totatly retarded...

what is up with your spelling? I am assuming you can drive but you cant spell worth a ****?

and as stated vtec works with the cams not a lil spring.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxmissing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no buddy

im not burning oil and u can read many things thats the probelm with half u guys
u guys read while other make the diffrents

i visted Pr 2 weeks ago and its kinda funny how them guys have no degree at all but with 50 dolloers can build u a monter from a 1.8 corolla motor something that i wont but again with any honda and yeah there ghetto but its the fact that ppl that wanna go fast make a diffrent by trying diffrent things its the will that pushs us to do what we do

and Purtorico vs usa Pr always win with there little ghetto car and they dont read what there doing or ask anyone u think honda gonna tell u yeah do this and that too make ur car gain 20hp no we do that we make the diffrents honda would not want us touching what they feel is perfect

we honda guys do it for them **** all car guys that wanna go fast do it i mean
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not making any sense

 

ur right !!!!

but im not trying to promise a gain in hp but more of a feel in what ppl expect in a vtec motor


u go old school with me

that first hit of vtec the one that makes u feel like u lost your virginty too the car lol
that make's u floor the hell out of the gas pedal

well now a days thats being lost
hey they don't built them like they use too any more u know the 1st gen b16 hit vtec hard as hell u can hear it over any car

but now we have the gsr great motor i love it but when it hits vtec its like umm ok i wanna hear it like i did in my 1st gen

how many ppl love turbo's
how many of u wanna have it for the blow off sound that u expect too have after spenting 2,000 some doller so everyone know to back off u have a turbo well same **** some of u guys have gsr and mini me's and gsr u really don't hear it like the old school or the type r when thy hit vtec ppl just wanna back out of a race honda but fear into the toyota and eclipse and so on just from the sound we let off

now the ? is should we all bring that back ...


very sorry for this post didnt take my time on it

 

what i ment by that is many ppl dont try new things ... if u think im wrong that cool it dont matter to me and there might be few that will try just for the hell of it or maybe proven me wrong and will see that there little gsr that didnt sound loud now scream

 

i hear you ..you're right i wont lie,,love the sound of vtec,love the sound of the turbo spooling and the blow off valve..call me a ricer but so what..

but if want an even better trick...you get $50 and go buy a buddyclub vtec controller off ebay,,stock vtec kicks in at like 5200revs,,,set it to kick in at like 5700revs and it will open like you never heard it before.....you dont gain **** and probably loose gas mileage but it's just for fun

 

True!!!

but many of us honda guys are 16 year old kids that just starting out thats why i also explain that u just dont need a itr spring u could just slightly pull on them too open the spring up because some 16 year would be like i dont have 50 dollers so here a easy non expensive way

 

What the dont even talk about poor people doing amazing things to there car...im building a turbo...freakin modding everything to make it work...i get your idea but im saying you open vtec longer...= not enough power...its made for your engine where it is supposed to be...also burning more oil...if you are modding for three whp...its pointless...yes its an idea...its been around...but no one does it...its not worth the strain on your engine for that...dang dont go freakin blaming people for your ignorance...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxmissing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True!!!

but many of us honda guys are 16 year old kids that just starting out thats why i also explain that u just dont need a itr spring u could just slightly pull on them too open the spring up because some 16 year would be like i dont have 50 dollers so here a easy non expensive way </TD></TR></TABLE>

umm actually most 16 year old honda drivers are ricers....

which gives honda drivers a bad name.

my brothers LS/VTEC with gsr cams has one of the loudest vtec engagements i have ever heard...what does that mean? absolutely nothing...but then again he is pushing 420 hp turbo...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboef310 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like how my V-TECH works now but if what you say is true that would be tight. I think if your car is tuned right V-TECH will pop on harder also.</TD></TR></TABLE>you're a fool

 

HAHAHA that's priceless. Three things I can say to proove this wrong:

1. VTEC is run of oil pressure, and as we all know, VTEC engines have a more efficient pump, and creates higher pressure with the revs. (Unlike my D15B2 which lost all oil pressure at 5500rpm )

2. Vtec works like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...earch=

Now as you can see, the rod simply pushes a pin out. Doing so, takes less then 10 PSI of Pressure. How do I know, well my school lab had us work with hydraulics, and for a cylinder of that bore (I estimate 3-4mm if I remember correctly) that has a stroke of approx 10mm (I'm probably over compensating), but, that size cylinder takes about 10psi to have a velocity of that speed (fast, uniform engagement). Higher oil pressure is simply supplied to cover the springs, cams and pistons with more oils as the RPMs climb!

3) The VTEC solenoid pushes the valve open, the springs simply closes quicker, thus shutting off VTEC. Those with oil pressure sensor verify that the oil pressure is good. Those without, simply act open the block oil pressure sensor, and the 12Vs at that VTEC RPM.

What you said, is a long waste of money and time. It would be easier to replace your VTEC Sol. with one of an ITR if it worked, but ^^^ prooves it doesn't!

 

And what does puerto rico have to do with this?

 

how many time should i say this... not promissing a gain of power just a harder crack of vtec

how funny all 16 yrs olds, dude i know many 16yrs that have some sick cars why is it that most ppl on here judge everyone like they the sh*t we all here for the same sh*t we all honda guys

i guess its just im not a a brick like most ppl ha

i have 5 honda that i own i build them all and half around my area and i would never judge anyone else and i always listen and take to mind other ppl idea even if there wrong thats how this form started half u guys just got into honda and think that right away u know it all not all but most so why not be a little more lay back and nicer im really cool *** dude if u get to know me

half u guys dont wanna see no one do better then u im not like that around were i live i help the less fortunade so we could all have fun and enjoy racing many are 16-19 yrs old kids

and becuase of me they stay away from dumb **** like drugs and trouble becuase they love what we all do work on honda's

 

EAASL?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxmissing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how many time should i say this... not promissing a gain of power just a harder crack of vtec

how funny all 16 yrs olds, dude i know many 16yrs that have some sick cars why is it that most ppl on here judge everyone like they the sh*t we all here for the same sh*t we all honda guys

i guess its just im not a a brick like most ppl ha

i have 5 honda that i own i build them all and half around my area and i would never judge anyone else and i always listen and take to mind other ppl idea even if there wrong thats how this form started half u guys just got into honda and think that right away u know it all not all but most so why not be a little more lay back and nicer im really cool *** dude if u get to know me

half u guys dont wanna see no one do better then u im not like that around were i live i help the less fortunade so we could all have fun and enjoy racing many are 16-19 yrs old kids

and becuase of me they stay away from dumb **** like drugs and trouble becuase they love what we all do work on honda's </TD></TR></TABLE>

Man, screw all the fighting and HT drama, what you said doesn't work! Once the pin is pushed in by a NON SPRING LOADED SOLENOID, the vtec is engaged and stays there. The 'crack' physically can't get harder. LOOK AT HOW IT WORKS! To make it 'crack' harder, you would need to weaken the spring so that the solenoid with be pressed in with less force but it won't shut it off as nice haha, upgrade the voltage and solenoid activation speed (replacing it with a more powerful one, not exactly cheap, and won't really get you anywhere) and upgrading the oil pressure so it physically has a harder force going thru it all, replacing the pump with a crazy 300PSI one haha.

Man, I'm done, but seriously why would you want it to hit harder, get some cams and don't bother with the solenoid, it works fine from factory haha.

 

yeah but the spring controls the reaction time in the locking of the pins for the valves its the reaction time that gives out the sound the faster the pins lock the quicker the response of the motor and its that quick response that makes vtec so loud..

 

MY god i said it when this started...you are a jackass...just stop beating a dead horse...

 

Pr has alot too do w/ this them guys up there do alot with almost nothing and because i did something u have never heard of or done or read about right away its wrong if i told u alot of things them dude up there do which i wont u would laught and tell them how wrong everything is but them would be the cars u would never keep up with na monster that not even the fasted honda on here could beat im talking about 86 toyota running flat 6 on the Qmile some less and there not tune or taking to shop or anything just whatever them dude have there but all u would think im full of **** dude juan i meet there laught when i told him what i race around and then took me to a midnight street race out there and guys no joke them carb 1.8 motor are sick and they do it right out there back yards using garden hose for the hearder core and dumb **** like that but it all works

the idea of this is try new things take a risk not every creat thing for a honda is writing in a damn book

u all call ur self honda guy i give respect to the one that have no fear to try new things them are the dude that had it hard like me when i started out when a b16 was alot more because u had to use ur head to know who get a b16 in even before hasport

eg and dc2 don't take a rock scientist to drop a motor into that with cam and intake and what not that **** my little 16yrs buddy doing for his friends there nothing to it

 

89efDUSTY go take a walk let the big boys talk calling me name's make u seem like the ***

ok well if u take a look and see the diffrents in a 1st gen b16 and a 3gen gsr sloniond there aint no diffrents even from out side of the car with out taking anything apart