Hey

Finally got another R after my old one was stolena nd stripped completely. Motor has 108k miles and the motor is needing a rebuild. I been thinking on the rebuild also building it up but i havent heard alot about brian crower stroker kits. Anyone know the pro's and con's with him.

This is the setup I plan on building

Head B18C5:
Skunk2 Pro 3+
Skunk2 Pro Cam Gears
Skunk2 Pro Springs/Retainers
Skunk2 HI Comp Valved STD
Skunk2 Pro IM
Skunk2 Pro 70MM TB
Stage 3 Port & Polish
JDM 4-1 Header

Block B18C5:
Darton Sleeved 86MM
Brian Crower 2.2L Stroker Kit 86MM/Bore x 95MM/ Stroker
Running 12.5:1 Comp Ration
Toda 85MM Oil Pump Gear
Morso 5.5Q Aluminum Oil Pan/Pickup

Also Having it fully Balanced and Blue Printed. Also wondering am i going to have any or little piston to valve clearance issues.

Thanks
Christopher

 

that is quite the setup you have there. you need to tell us though what youll be using the car for. the motor you described should not be street driven, although i can say ive seen worse.......

crower is a reputable company with several good parts. i doubt the stroker crank is any different. i dont have personal experience with it but i wouldnt hesitate to say its a quality part. if anyone has experience or thinks otherwise please prove me wrong

 

if you've already got a full B18C5 including intake manifold theres no point in getting the skunk2 IM as its near enough the same thing?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the_unknown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is quite the setup you have there. you need to tell us though what youll be using the car for. the motor you described should not be street driven</TD></TR></TABLE>

Before build its going to be daily Driven but after build i might still keep in a daily driven but depends on if i get another r in time

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you've already got a full B18C5 including intake manifold theres no point in getting the skunk2 IM as its near enough the same thing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes but, with a complete build i was thinking just getting a brand new complete IM along with it since JDM Header is going to be shipped from HOP in japan

 

i think you could find a better header for that big engine

 

I know but im still in the building stages i think i might go with a complete 3" header and exhaust by SMSP. Might be running stock USDM Header tell i get the tranny Fully Built and Balanced

 

I've got a similiar block build to yours 85mm sleeved R w crower rods but not to sure what cr piston i'm gonna use. What r the plans for ur tranny? Good luck on the build.

 

 

new gears and syncros with coating. ats 4.7 FD and stage 3 clutch from clutchmasters

 

Nice i got the ats 5.077 FD.

 

With a 95mm stroke you will see an increase in bearing wear, especially if revved over 8500. That is a lot of stroke to pound the bearings.

The bearings on our 85x98 setup were replaced after 8k miles of hard use, but only revving to 8300.

If you want to do a stroker setup, I would lean more towards a 91mm crank, you will still be in the 2.1L range, but you will have much longer bearing life, and you will be able to use a longer revv range to compliment the 4.7fd.

Good luck with the buildip

 

Quick change note due to money issues.

Update
Sleeving Block Stock 81MM Bore Stock Stroke but knifed crank new ACL Bearings. All Bottem End Internals JDM all Head JDM but Keeping Skunk2 Pro Cam Gears Valves, Springs and Retainers, TB, JDM Cams and JDM Header With complete port and polished head

 

BTW Thank you all for your comments you still might see this motor build for Drag in a 94 Del Sol Weekend Warrior

 

wow, from a fully built race stroker to a mild na daily driver. had you looked at the prices prior to your original setup? haha

 

nah i just checked my stock and it DROPPED 18 points so i just lost my build up so i closed out my account and saved enough to get this mild build stock market is a mean person

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cltitus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quick change note due to money issues.

Update
Sleeving Block Stock 81MM Bore Stock Stroke but knifed crank new ACL Bearings. All Bottem End Internals JDM all Head JDM but Keeping Skunk2 Pro Cam Gears Valves, Springs and Retainers, TB, JDM Cams and JDM Header With complete port and polished head</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh cool 180 horse

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crower is a reputable company with several good parts. i doubt the stroker crank is any different. i dont have personal experience with it but i wouldnt hesitate to say its a quality part. if anyone has experience or thinks otherwise please prove me wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, crower is. but did you know brian crower, and crower are 2 totally different companies?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cltitus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quick change note due to money issues.

Update
Sleeving Block Stock 81MM Bore Stock Stroke but knifed crank new ACL Bearings. All Bottem End Internals JDM all Head JDM but Keeping Skunk2 Pro Cam Gears Valves, Springs and Retainers, TB, JDM Cams and JDM Header With complete port and polished head</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, why sleeve 81 mm? Even, if you were going 20+ lbs of boost stoock sleeves are fine.

If you are going to sleeve go to 84.5 mm and keep the compression at 11:5. That will insure you have good reliability with high hp.

 

Don't knife edge the crank and use the money to buy OEM Honda bearings instead.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ok, why sleeve 81 mm? Even, if you were going 20+ lbs of boost stoock sleeves are fine.

If you are going to sleeve go to 84.5 mm and keep the compression at 11:5. That will insure you have good reliability with high hp.
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i think he meant "stock sleeves"

i also dont really think he knows whats going on. this is just another thread in allmotor where someone comes in here and TELLS you what they are going to do and isnt asking a question, jsut waiting for people to say "oh damn man that is awesome wow, can i give you a hand job that is so bad ***"

 

Why do you say not to knife edge the crank?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soulpwr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you say not to knife edge the crank?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Should we phrase it like this? :

Knife edging the crank on your street engine is like taking money and throwing it out out your car window.

- Derek

 

some would say knife edging doesnt leave enough coutnerwieght mass to pull the piston back down into the hole but ive never tested it personally so i wont chisel it into this HT stone we all live and die by.

 

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With a light enough rod/piston combo, that wouldn't be so much of an issue.

And BTW...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i wont chisel it into this HT stone we all live and die by </TD></TR></TABLE>

Comic gold.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

With a light enough rod/piston combo, that wouldn't be so much of an issue.

And BTW...

Comic gold.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you act like youve never been to a meet and heard some 115lb kid with a sideways wu-wear hat spit something out verbatim from HT with more conviction than billy graham preaching a sermon on national TV

 

Good point