has any got itb's on there 06 or 07 s2000 and what is the best place get them

 

nevermind

 

Not yet.

Gotta get them direct from what ever company you choose to go with.

With 1 post, I wouln't get ITB's if I were you

 

What's itbon?

 

why not itb i have looked at thet set up at shows and they sound good .do they not make power?.
i was told that you can get 25-30 hp with them .
is this right ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bug man nrg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not itb i have looked at thet set up at shows and they sound good .do they not make power?.
i was told that you can get 25-30 hp with them .
is this right ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
uhh no.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bug man nrg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not itb i have looked at thet set up at shows and they sound good .do they not make power?.
i was told that you can get 25-30 hp with them .
is this right ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The power all depends on the tune. You can get 15 - 30 rwhp. Their not worth it unless you have supporting mods, they should be installed last.

 

I believe it costs a lot to get them tuned. My friend has a s2k motor in his ae86 and only has a full throttle map. To get it tuned for partial throttle took one tuner 5 days 5 hours a day to do it. Not cheap!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not yet.

Gotta get them direct from what ever company you choose to go with.

With 1 post, I wouln't get ITB's if I were you </TD></TR></TABLE>LOL, anybody can be a post ***** on here. 1 post doesnt mean nothin.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bug man nrg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not itb i have looked at thet set up at shows and they sound good .do they not make power?.
i was told that you can get 25-30 hp with them .
is this right ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are looking forward to remap the whole fuel curve, gas mileage will go down hill and it's noisey as hell.

alot of autocross guys perfers this for instant response but itb alone do not make alot of power.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redGSRguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe it costs a lot to get them tuned. My friend has a s2k motor in his ae86 and only has a full throttle map. To get it tuned for partial throttle took one tuner 5 days 5 hours a day to do it. Not cheap!</TD></TR></TABLE>

who was the tuner?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redGSRguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe it costs a lot to get them tuned. My friend has a s2k motor in his ae86 and only has a full throttle map. To get it tuned for partial throttle took one tuner 5 days 5 hours a day to do it. Not cheap!</TD></TR></TABLE>

That seems like over kill. Should only take one session if the tuner knows a motor, but I guess it all depends on how **** retentive you are.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

who was the tuner?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure, just some guy my friend talked too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That seems like over kill. Should only take one session if the tuner knows a motor, but I guess it all depends on how **** retentive you are.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't they have to build the maps from scratch? It took the guys at dsr the entire day to tune this one e30 m3. If you had a starting point it would be a lot easier, but s2k guys with itbs are not going to give their maps up since they paid a lot of money to get them tuned! Sorry if my post is incoherent, kinda drunk.

 

i called TWM and Jenvey on this and they say you can run itb's on the OEM ECU .
TWM gave me a price of $2175 for the set up. i am going to call the jenvey dealer in florida today and see what price they come up with.i looked at the jenvey site and there pirice is in pounds .an i also see a clip on street fire web site of a s2000 with the itb's on it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bug man nrg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has any got itb's on there 06 or 07 s2000 and what is the best place get them </TD></TR></TABLE>

Since an 06' and 07' are Drive-By-Wire...how can he possibly run the ITB setup since there is no cable to drive them? It's gunna cost a whole bunch more to make that work on a DBW setup vs. a cable'd throttle setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bug man nrg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i called TWM and Jenvey on this and they say you can run itb's on the OEM ECU .
TWM gave me a price of $2175 for the set up. i am going to call the jenvey dealer in florida today and see what price they come up with.i looked at the jenvey site and there pirice is in pounds .an i also see a clip on street fire web site of a s2000 with the itb's on it </TD></TR></TABLE>

No you cant.

TWM sucks anyway, the throttle sticks sometimes and the build quality is poor. They are the cheap answer to ITB's.

Ive been talking to Lance over at Hayward, ive learned alot. You need some type of EMS, the oem ecu can not handle tuning ITB's.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redGSRguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't they have to build the maps from scratch? It took the guys at dsr the entire day to tune this one e30 m3. If you had a starting point it would be a lot easier, but s2k guys with itbs are not going to give their maps up since they paid a lot of money to get them tuned! Sorry if my post is incoherent, kinda drunk.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Theirs base maps out there to build from

From what I gather you can get an s2000 base map and modify it. It takes some work, but once you get the timing and idle figured out its much smoother. If you tie the IACV into the vaccuum lines for ITB's the car will start fine, even in the cold.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Since an 06' and 07' are Drive-By-Wire...how can he possibly run the ITB setup since there is no cable to drive them? It's gunna cost a whole bunch more to make that work on a DBW setup vs. a cable'd throttle setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wasn't aware the 06 - 07 were DBW. Thanks for pointing that one out, its a very good point

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wasn't aware the 06 - 07 were DBW. Thanks for pointing that one out, its a very good point </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, now he'd need to buy all the cable-drive components, a stand-alone ECU, lose his immobilizer, custom install/tuning...simply to gain WHAT?

I've heard that the guys at Hondata can re-flash the 06+ ECU and get gains of 15-20whp alone...maybe more? It sounds like that is close to what he was after all along anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, now he'd need to buy all the cable-drive components, a stand-alone ECU, lose his immobilizer, custom install/tuning...simply to gain WHAT?

I've heard that the guys at Hondata can re-flash the 06+ ECU and get gains of 15-20whp alone...maybe more? It sounds like that is close to what he was after all along anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hondata reflash doesn't do that much plus the reflash was done with certain branded mods. If you buy something else, you wouldn't be getting your full tuning potential.

The reflash is good for someone who just does IHE but a ems is the better option

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Theirs base maps out there to build from

From what I gather you can get an s2000 base map and modify it. It takes some work, but once you get the timing and idle figured out its much smoother. If you tie the IACV into the vaccuum lines for ITB's the car will start fine, even in the cold.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you direct me to some of those maps for aem ems? I will forward the info on and my friend won't have to drive full throttle all the time .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hondata reflash doesn't do that much plus the reflash was done with certain branded mods. If you buy something else, you wouldn't be getting your full tuning potential.

The reflash is good for someone who just does IHE but a ems is the better option</TD></TR></TABLE>

Will the AEM EMS be able to control the DBW Throttle Body, or will he still have to swap over the cable/pedal/T-Body, etc. in order to run it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will the AEM EMS be able to control the DBW Throttle Body, or will he still have to swap over the cable/pedal/T-Body, etc. in order to run it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure if AEM has adapted their ems to work with DBW. If they haven't, I'm sure its only a matter of time

 

They got it to work on the NSX, so I don't see why not. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure if AEM has adapted their ems to work with DBW. If they haven't, I'm sure its only a matter of time</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redGSRguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Can you direct me to some of those maps for aem ems? I will forward the info on and my friend won't have to drive full throttle all the time .</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I had them I would. Best bet is to check out the AEMPower.com forums, people on there have maps they can email.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, now he'd need to buy all the cable-drive components, a stand-alone ECU, lose his immobilizer, custom install/tuning...simply to gain WHAT?

I've heard that the guys at Hondata can re-flash the 06+ ECU and get gains of 15-20whp alone...maybe more? It sounds like that is close to what he was after all along anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I had an 06 or 07 I would get the Hondata first, and see how that goes

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If I had an 06 or 07 I would get the Hondata first, and see how that goes </TD></TR></TABLE>

Drove an 06 with the Hondata @ 8500 redline, 4.57s, on Azenis at SOW and truthfully, it doesn't feel any faster than my car. The early VTEC crossover does help driveability on most of the corners, but I was about 1.5-2 seconds slower in that car than in mine.