Safe to power up F22B2?
I drive a 95 2dr Accord LX (F22B2 non v-tec) @ 79K miles.
I've been thinking of swapping my motors between a B18C1 or a H22A and decided that it would cost me more than a grand. I would even have to spend more swapping from auto to manual. Honestly, I dont like to race and I just plan to take my Accord as a daily commute. So what the heck... might as well work on the F22 motor. I can save myself money this way if I dont plan to do any sort of racing
. It wouldnt hurt to put a few modifications here and there. I already had a general maintence for brake rotors and brake pads (currently at 79K miles) and some other stuff distributor caps etc, but I still have to do the major tune up at 90K miles for water pump and timing belts.
What are some minor mods I should do to get some HP and better gas mileage? I was thinking of getting GReddy headers, a short ram intake, and probably some NGK blue spark plug wires.
What about turbo? Which brand and set do you recommend for a F22B2? I like the HKS set along with the SSQBOV, but I dont want to overheat and push my motor to the limit where it'll break.
I've been thinking of swapping my motors between a B18C1 or a H22A and decided that it would cost me more than a grand. I would even have to spend more swapping from auto to manual. Honestly, I dont like to race and I just plan to take my Accord as a daily commute. So what the heck... might as well work on the F22 motor. I can save myself money this way if I dont plan to do any sort of racing
. It wouldnt hurt to put a few modifications here and there. I already had a general maintence for brake rotors and brake pads (currently at 79K miles) and some other stuff distributor caps etc, but I still have to do the major tune up at 90K miles for water pump and timing belts. What are some minor mods I should do to get some HP and better gas mileage? I was thinking of getting GReddy headers, a short ram intake, and probably some NGK blue spark plug wires.
What about turbo? Which brand and set do you recommend for a F22B2? I like the HKS set along with the SSQBOV, but I dont want to overheat and push my motor to the limit where it'll break.
I would stay away from the integra engine (b18) as it will not have near enough tq. The H22 is a much better and easier swap for your accord.
If your car is on it's original timing belt I would consider changing that belt now. My 97 has about 76k and I did mine a few months ago. I say this because while the belt is rated at something like 110k it is also supposed to have a shelf life of about 7 or 8 years.
I put a short ram on mine at about 40k and haven't really noticed anything besides more noise. Might gain more mileage but it is little if any. As far as a header goes I have heard from quite a few people that the f22b1 ex header is as good as most of the aftermarket ones.
As far a turbos go I have seen a few setups on stock blocks pushing around 8 psi with good tuning without major problems just be aware that it will shorten the life of your engine.
If I was gonna spend a grand on my accord though I would do some more suspension upgrades but goodluck on whatever you choose.
-b
If your car is on it's original timing belt I would consider changing that belt now. My 97 has about 76k and I did mine a few months ago. I say this because while the belt is rated at something like 110k it is also supposed to have a shelf life of about 7 or 8 years.
I put a short ram on mine at about 40k and haven't really noticed anything besides more noise. Might gain more mileage but it is little if any. As far as a header goes I have heard from quite a few people that the f22b1 ex header is as good as most of the aftermarket ones.
As far a turbos go I have seen a few setups on stock blocks pushing around 8 psi with good tuning without major problems just be aware that it will shorten the life of your engine.
If I was gonna spend a grand on my accord though I would do some more suspension upgrades but goodluck on whatever you choose.
-b
thanks for the info
yeah i guess ill leave the turbo out for now (man... those BOV's sound so goood!!)
whats the diff. between and air in take and a short ram? which brand do you recommend for air intake/short ram?
i MAY consider the f22b1 ex headers since they are legit unlike the aftermarket headers. or are they?
yeah i guess ill leave the turbo out for now (man... those BOV's sound so goood!!)
whats the diff. between and air in take and a short ram? which brand do you recommend for air intake/short ram?
i MAY consider the f22b1 ex headers since they are legit unlike the aftermarket headers. or are they?
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i MAY consider the f22b1 ex headers since they are legit unlike the aftermarket headers. or are they?
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As far as a header goes I have heard from quite a few people that the f22b1 ex header is as good as most of the aftermarket ones.
-b</TD></TR></TABLE>
Waste your cash on an ex header.. too bad it wont fit on your lx..
I/E/H/ will do nothing for the f22b2 except make it sound "cool".
You'll be lucky to gain 7-10 hp for your ~600 bucks.. your butt dyno cant even feel that.
i MAY consider the f22b1 ex headers since they are legit unlike the aftermarket headers. or are they?
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As far as a header goes I have heard from quite a few people that the f22b1 ex header is as good as most of the aftermarket ones.
-b</TD></TR></TABLE>
Waste your cash on an ex header.. too bad it wont fit on your lx..
I/E/H/ will do nothing for the f22b2 except make it sound "cool".
You'll be lucky to gain 7-10 hp for your ~600 bucks.. your butt dyno cant even feel that.
I'm pretty sure it will fit with minimal modification.... there have been a few threads about this.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1691129
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1691129
With it being an automatic I would stay away from turbo. Lots of problems on our trannies.
I have a Weapon-R Secret Weapon Intake. It's one of the best intakes on the market, google it and see what it does. There's dyno's to back it up but it's not like It's a noticable noticable gain. I have a megan racing cat-back exhaust and those two matched up sound really deep. But It's really all about the sound.
If I were you I agreed with f22b2power and go with some suspension mods. A good lowering setup and some rims can make a car look sweet. Also I am a lover of CF hoods. But either way whatever you decide good luck
Justin
I have a Weapon-R Secret Weapon Intake. It's one of the best intakes on the market, google it and see what it does. There's dyno's to back it up but it's not like It's a noticable noticable gain. I have a megan racing cat-back exhaust and those two matched up sound really deep. But It's really all about the sound.
If I were you I agreed with f22b2power and go with some suspension mods. A good lowering setup and some rims can make a car look sweet. Also I am a lover of CF hoods. But either way whatever you decide good luck
Justin
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With strut tower bars, they don't do too much I can imagine, I'd check into megan racing for good quality at a good price. My friend for his 94 celica just spent like 700 for a front strut tower bar, and a rear strut tower bar from c-one. I know they're like straight out of japan but still that's a ton of money. But good luck, anymore questions let me know... Justin
I'm a big fan of the Neuspeed style strut bars, even though they are all 1999 and ****
Remember, your car has shocks, not struts and you need to reinforce the upper control arm mounts, not the shock mount. When I did this mod to past cars I noticed tightened steering, more controlled front end motion, but slightly more exagerated understeer.
For my $1K:
-Strut brace
-Rear Sway bar (BIG)
-Tires
-Brake Pads
It won't look any different from the outside, but it will be way more fun
Remember, your car has shocks, not struts and you need to reinforce the upper control arm mounts, not the shock mount. When I did this mod to past cars I noticed tightened steering, more controlled front end motion, but slightly more exagerated understeer.For my $1K:
-Strut brace
-Rear Sway bar (BIG)
-Tires
-Brake Pads
It won't look any different from the outside, but it will be way more fun
yeah, suspension mods are the best bang for your buck. I/H/E wont do as much for you car and the suspension mods will do. they make it so much more fun to drive.
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That is true, except for a well documented tendancy for the trans to take a crap with age/power. Honda's older automajiks are notorious for starting to slip under power very quickly followed by a rapid decline to blown trans. It has to do more with regulating the internal temps of the trans than a weakness in a specific component. It cooks itself.
That is true, except for a well documented tendancy for the trans to take a crap with age/power. Honda's older automajiks are notorious for starting to slip under power very quickly followed by a rapid decline to blown trans. It has to do more with regulating the internal temps of the trans than a weakness in a specific component. It cooks itself.
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That is true, except for a well documented tendancy for the trans to take a crap with age/power. Honda's older automajiks are notorious for starting to slip under power very quickly followed by a rapid decline to blown trans. It has to do more with regulating the internal temps of the trans than a weakness in a specific component. It cooks itself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
true, but if i were to boost my car with a stock auto tranny, you best believe i'd be putting a bigger tranny cooler on it haha. i'm thinking about doing it now as it is.
That is true, except for a well documented tendancy for the trans to take a crap with age/power. Honda's older automajiks are notorious for starting to slip under power very quickly followed by a rapid decline to blown trans. It has to do more with regulating the internal temps of the trans than a weakness in a specific component. It cooks itself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
true, but if i were to boost my car with a stock auto tranny, you best believe i'd be putting a bigger tranny cooler on it haha. i'm thinking about doing it now as it is.
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