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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Default Safe to power up F22B2?

I drive a 95 2dr Accord LX (F22B2 non v-tec) @ 79K miles.

I've been thinking of swapping my motors between a B18C1 or a H22A and decided that it would cost me more than a grand. I would even have to spend more swapping from auto to manual. Honestly, I dont like to race and I just plan to take my Accord as a daily commute. So what the heck... might as well work on the F22 motor. I can save myself money this way if I dont plan to do any sort of racing . It wouldnt hurt to put a few modifications here and there. I already had a general maintence for brake rotors and brake pads (currently at 79K miles) and some other stuff distributor caps etc, but I still have to do the major tune up at 90K miles for water pump and timing belts.

What are some minor mods I should do to get some HP and better gas mileage? I was thinking of getting GReddy headers, a short ram intake, and probably some NGK blue spark plug wires.

What about turbo? Which brand and set do you recommend for a F22B2? I like the HKS set along with the SSQBOV, but I dont want to overheat and push my motor to the limit where it'll break.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Safe to power up F22B2? (EvenStar)

I would stay away from the integra engine (b18) as it will not have near enough tq. The H22 is a much better and easier swap for your accord.

If your car is on it's original timing belt I would consider changing that belt now. My 97 has about 76k and I did mine a few months ago. I say this because while the belt is rated at something like 110k it is also supposed to have a shelf life of about 7 or 8 years.

I put a short ram on mine at about 40k and haven't really noticed anything besides more noise. Might gain more mileage but it is little if any. As far as a header goes I have heard from quite a few people that the f22b1 ex header is as good as most of the aftermarket ones.

As far a turbos go I have seen a few setups on stock blocks pushing around 8 psi with good tuning without major problems just be aware that it will shorten the life of your engine.

If I was gonna spend a grand on my accord though I would do some more suspension upgrades but goodluck on whatever you choose.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Safe to power up F22B2? (f22b2power)

thanks for the info

yeah i guess ill leave the turbo out for now (man... those BOV's sound so goood!!)

whats the diff. between and air in take and a short ram? which brand do you recommend for air intake/short ram?

i MAY consider the f22b1 ex headers since they are legit unlike the aftermarket headers. or are they?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EvenStar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i MAY consider the f22b1 ex headers since they are legit unlike the aftermarket headers. or are they? </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f22b2power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as a header goes I have heard from quite a few people that the f22b1 ex header is as good as most of the aftermarket ones.
-b</TD></TR></TABLE>

Waste your cash on an ex header.. too bad it wont fit on your lx..
I/E/H/ will do nothing for the f22b2 except make it sound "cool".
You'll be lucky to gain 7-10 hp for your ~600 bucks.. your butt dyno cant even feel that.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Safe to power up F22B2? (mtnwkr)

I'm pretty sure it will fit with minimal modification.... there have been a few threads about this.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1691129
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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With it being an automatic I would stay away from turbo. Lots of problems on our trannies.

I have a Weapon-R Secret Weapon Intake. It's one of the best intakes on the market, google it and see what it does. There's dyno's to back it up but it's not like It's a noticable noticable gain. I have a megan racing cat-back exhaust and those two matched up sound really deep. But It's really all about the sound.

If I were you I agreed with f22b2power and go with some suspension mods. A good lowering setup and some rims can make a car look sweet. Also I am a lover of CF hoods. But either way whatever you decide good luck

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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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yeah i might need some strut bars. any good brands you recommend?

i think ill just go all motor and kick the turbo out of the list.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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With strut tower bars, they don't do too much I can imagine, I'd check into megan racing for good quality at a good price. My friend for his 94 celica just spent like 700 for a front strut tower bar, and a rear strut tower bar from c-one. I know they're like straight out of japan but still that's a ton of money. But good luck, anymore questions let me know... Justin
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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I'm a big fan of the Neuspeed style strut bars, even though they are all 1999 and **** Remember, your car has shocks, not struts and you need to reinforce the upper control arm mounts, not the shock mount. When I did this mod to past cars I noticed tightened steering, more controlled front end motion, but slightly more exagerated understeer.

For my $1K:
-Strut brace
-Rear Sway bar (BIG)
-Tires
-Brake Pads

It won't look any different from the outside, but it will be way more fun
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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actually the stock auto tranny is the same as the v6 tranny in 94-97 accords and they can handle over 200 hp. i believe its something like 265.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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yeah, suspension mods are the best bang for your buck. I/H/E wont do as much for you car and the suspension mods will do. they make it so much more fun to drive.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sony224422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the stock auto tranny is the same as the v6 tranny in 94-97 accords and they can handle over 200 hp. i believe its something like 265.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is true, except for a well documented tendancy for the trans to take a crap with age/power. Honda's older automajiks are notorious for starting to slip under power very quickly followed by a rapid decline to blown trans. It has to do more with regulating the internal temps of the trans than a weakness in a specific component. It cooks itself.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Prodigal Son &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is true, except for a well documented tendancy for the trans to take a crap with age/power. Honda's older automajiks are notorious for starting to slip under power very quickly followed by a rapid decline to blown trans. It has to do more with regulating the internal temps of the trans than a weakness in a specific component. It cooks itself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

true, but if i were to boost my car with a stock auto tranny, you best believe i'd be putting a bigger tranny cooler on it haha. i'm thinking about doing it now as it is.
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