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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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I want to swap these springs (two on the right in picture bellow) onto my ground controls since they are stiffer rates.

Question is, I never seen those type of springs before. He said they are from Ground Control, not from Eibach. What's the purpse of that design? What's the difference from those than the regular Eibach ones that normaly come with GC's?

I tried emailing GC but never got a response, will try to contact them by phone but I don't have time.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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Default Re: what's the difference from these springs? (.Huey)

All GC springs are made by Eibach. The springs on the right are barrell shaped for maximum travel.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Default Re: what's the difference from these springs? (vtecvoodoo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All GC springs are made by Eibach. The springs on the right are barrell shaped for maximum travel. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What do you mean by maximum travel?
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Huey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What do you mean by maximum travel? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You can compress them more before the coils touch. aka coil bind
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _BEN_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can compress them more before the coils touch. aka coil bind</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are these springs used for? I mean, why would someone get these over the other springs?
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Huey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What are these springs used for? I mean, why would someone get these over the other springs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you have to ask, it probably does not matter

Just get them if you need stiffer springs and they are available.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you have to ask, it probably does not matter

Just get them if you need stiffer springs and they are available. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, I just want to know Like, would it benefit more on the track, daily driving, 'slammed'...etc
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Default Re: what's the difference from these springs? (.Huey)

When a spring is fully compressed (all coils touching), that is called coil bind. The spring is no longer able to perform its function as a spring.

The benefit of a spring having more available travel before coil bind is obvious, then; the spring can be compressed further than compared to a spring that does not have this benefit, so the barrel-shaped spring will not reach coil-bind as soon as the non-barrel-shaped spring.

The benefit can be seen in any situation where you may experience coil bind, and isn't specific to any application.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When a spring is fully compressed (all coils touching), that is called coil bind. The spring is no longer able to perform its function as a spring.

The benefit of a spring having more available travel before coil bind is obvious, then; the spring can be compressed further than compared to a spring that does not have this benefit, so the barrel-shaped spring will not reach coil-bind as soon as the non-barrel-shaped spring.

The benefit can be seen in any situation where you may experience coil bind, and isn't specific to any application. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks

Also I remember seeing a thread awhile back ago. The guy had these springs up front and was pretty low with spring rates of 400 IIRC, and has rubbing issues. He switched to the other style springs, with 400lbs rates also and it stopped? They were both 7" springs. I see a lot of people use 8" springs up front?

Wouldn't it be the opposite with the barrel shapped springs? I'll try to find the thread..


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